derrickdj1 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 If I have $600 to spend, DIY all the way! There is a slight output difference with a rear vs front firing ported sub. It has to do with which direction the port is located and where the close mic measurement are done. For most of us sitting more than a meter away, the real world difference is nil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 If I have $600 to spend, DIY all the way! There is a slight output difference with a rear vs front firing ported sub. It has to do with which direction the port is located and where the close mic measurement are done. For most of us sitting more than a meter away, the real world difference is nil. Not sure about a DIY project... but, I would consider HDDIFY (Have Derrick do it for you). ============= What are your thoughts on downward -firing subs? Any thing funky to consider or compensate for? Or omni-directional is still omni-directional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 From an engineering point, down firing is better than front or rear firing. some of the harmonic dissipate in the down firing configurationa and slightly cleaner sound. But, in the small HT, omni directional rules unless you are using a subwoofer array. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Sounds good. I've never owned a downward firing sub. But, I have (2) 15" downward-firing subs on the way. Really looking forward to hearing them in my (carpeted) space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 You will be a happy camper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stygz Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 Ordered the PC2000 today. Should be in Wednesday just like the replacement sublink. They were great to work with. I was given a 5% off repeat customer discount also. For those who have never did the SVS trade up it seems pretty easy. Basically they give you their discounted shipping rate to send the old sub back (in this case $30). I get a call tag and they set up a pick up time from my house. I also pay the discounted shipping rate of the new sub (PC2000 $40). I talked to Denon and no real answer why the 2100 was acting up. However, the wifi worked perfect today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 The trade-up option within SVS would be the way to go. SVS is easy to work with & that route offers the best bang for your buck. 1 sub, with corner placement & small footprint should make both you & the wife happy. Look forward to your impression of the cylinder sub. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stygz Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 Absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artto Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Ordered the PC2000 today. Should be in Wednesday just like the replacement sublink. You won't be disappointed. I got a PC2000 earlier this year. On the Skyfall BluRay, the scene where the subway train falls through the ceiling of the reservoir below, the SVS sub, which is in the front corner, first the vertical blinds started shaking, then the SVS literally parted the floor to ceiling blinds for a few seconds. You could feel the sub-bass ripple right through the floor and body. You should have seen the look on my wife's face!!! Then the smile and look of surprise on her face disappeared as she turned and said "IS THAT WHAT YOU SPENT ALL THAT $$$ ON?" LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Interesting the that cylinder subs from SVS come standard with (4) Isolation feet. Curious what the sound would be like without them, unless the the Iso feet are integral to the cylinder design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 They sound exactly the same. Isolation feet keep the sub from vibrating so much in the house. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Glad to learn I'm still on "view mode". I just thought it was interesting that with all the subs SVS sells, that they chose to ship the Cylinder subs with the Isolation feet as OEM. Must be that the Cylinder subs are ported on the bottom? And thereby require the gap or extra space from the floor that the Isolation feet provide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stygz Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Cylinder subs are ported on the back or the top. It's a down firing driver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stygz Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Pending model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 That makes sense (kinda obvious now, lol). When I initially checked the PC-13... it showed 3 ports (thought they were on the bottom), but they are on top, with the driver firing downward. The PC-2000 is rear ported. Like you mentioned, some models have the ports positioned on the back, so port position will vary. PC-13: Top Ported PC-2000: Rear Ported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Must be that the Cylinder subs are ported on the bottom? And thereby require the gap or extra space from the floor that the Isolation feet provide? Top ported, bottom/down firing driver. There's 3 legs to hold the tube up off the bottom plate. The feet are on the bottom of the plate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 From the picture you just provided, they've changed things up a bit since I had my PCU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 PC-2000 is the only updated one. Top cap to give a couple Finish options to match their speakers. My guess would Be they put the feet on there to make the PC-2000 the same price as the pb-2000. Cause the cylinder version has always been cheaper. That evens it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K5SS Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I have owner 3 different cylinder SVS subs and they all had a bottom plate, no isolation feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I have owner 3 different cylinder SVS subs and they all had a bottom plate, no isolation feet. The Isolation feet are pretty sturdy & robust. They are about an 1-1/2 tall, that must be a similar distance with the plate versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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