jimbobo Posted March 19, 2001 Share Posted March 19, 2001 Just bought some KLF-10's (almost stole em' at 550 dollars for a pair). But I was wondering if there was a damping material I could put on the back of the horn? has anyone here ever done this before? Was it worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted March 19, 2001 Share Posted March 19, 2001 Take a look under the "Updating Older Speakers" forum and you'll find a gazillion, plus or minus, posts talking about using rope caulk or Dynamat on the horns. I used Dynamat, bought at local Pep Boys auto center, older icky brown version rather than newer, lighter weight, prettier but not as effective silver versions. Ray ------------------ Music is art Audio is engineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted March 20, 2001 Share Posted March 20, 2001 yeah, i tried to dampen my speakers. seemed to me water would be the best thing to dampen'em with. musta overdamped'em though cuz they hardly'll make a peep now. anybody know how to undampen'em? I. R. Dumm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted March 20, 2001 Share Posted March 20, 2001 Hey James, We talk about dampening not having a pool party with them..... How'd they sound under water? Oops that's right, barely a peep.. Seriously, they say the ABS horns don't need dampening but you can hear the difference. Much less plasticy sounding, especially on quick loud transients. Peter Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted March 20, 2001 Share Posted March 20, 2001 mdeneen, Good point. Only thing I can think of is that damping with products that actually work (rope chaulk, Dynamat, whatever) is very labor intensive (= $$$) (took me an entire evening to get the Dynamat on both my squawker horns), and that products that spray on don't work well enough to be worth it. Klipsch guys, any observations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gto6 Posted March 20, 2001 Share Posted March 20, 2001 Maybe dampened horns can be a factory ordered option for an additional fee. Klipsch could ever come up with an after market damping kit........I like alittle blair every now and then, We did buy horns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted March 20, 2001 Share Posted March 20, 2001 Well, there's plastic, then there's PLASTIC. Take a gander at this page: http://www.avantgarde-usa.com/whitepapers/material.htm Of course, the Trios cost over $35,000, but they do sound really nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted March 21, 2001 Share Posted March 21, 2001 Dampening does seem logical. But the plain truth is, I just don't hear any problems in the mids now. In fact, I love the mids on my '98 k-horns. I'd even go so far as to say that k-horns' mid-range performance is the speakers' single strongest selling point. I know that's not the conventional wisdom concerning klipschorns, but it's just my opinion. Can low frequency resonances that are transfered to the mid-horn audibly affect midrange performance? Or are the resonance problems people report originating in the mids' passband? Simple minds want to know! ------------------ JDMcCall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Warren Posted March 21, 2001 Share Posted March 21, 2001 listen to a good quality piano or violin recording played thru a K-horn. A recording with good dynamic range. in fact listen to it thru just about any horn loaded mid-rage even JBL pro equipment, Altec etc (A7 is the worse). Based on my hearing tests, accuracy is lost. The larger throat horns sound better but IMO direct radiators can be superior in the mid-range, especially small arrays. the concept of bi-amped K-horn folded bass unit and direct radiator mid-range array has been persued by others with good results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Warren Posted March 21, 2001 Share Posted March 21, 2001 M-small array would be an assemblage of four 6" drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOMIS914 Posted March 28, 2001 Share Posted March 28, 2001 Back to the dampening topic, I own KLF-30's and C7 center.....Would I apply dampening materials such as Dynamat or rope caulk to the back/throat of BOTH the tweeter and Mid-range horns?? Is the "Squawker" the mid-range or tweeter?? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted March 28, 2001 Share Posted March 28, 2001 Squawker is PWK's subroquet for the midrange. Dogs woof. Birds tweet. I don't really know what kinda critters squawk. A study in onamotapoetics too. Gil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 Spelling - onomatopoeics. Easy. "Squawk": squawk (skwôk) v. squawked, squawk·ing, squawks. v. intr. (1) To utter a harsh scream; screech. (2) Informal. To complain or protest noisily or peevishly. "Squawk" is the sound typically heard uttered by people who listen to Klipsch speakers after having just purchased some other brand of speaker, hence the use of the term "squawker" do identify the most critical component of the speaker. Ray ------------------ Music is art Audio is engineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormin Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 My opinion is look at other reasons for your dislike of the mids and highs. Maybe equipment or maybe wire. But i will take my chorus II's straight-up thanks. Adcom GFA 555MKII Adcom GFP 555MKII Cal Audio Icon MKII Chorus II's Cardas inters & cables Rock on!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Warren Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 I believe "squawker" has it's roots in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 I applied one layer of rope caulk on the K-85-K tweeter (from my KG5.5) yesterday. I then did some quick listening tests. I could definitely tell a difference and it was more pronounced than I expected -- albeit still subtle. Based on my listening tests, I will be caulking the other tweeter very soon. The caulked tweeter seems to be less harsh with a cleaner overall sound. I will say the the plastic on these KG5.5 horns seems kind of weak (at least compared to the horn material used on the K-85-K in the KG4.2) so maybe that's why the caulk helped so much. I recommend others try this cheap tweak! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry N. Cruse Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 Sir, Who knows! When Paul said " Hand me a "Filipino",(old sp) he wanted a Phillips head screwdriver!!!!! Still Slammin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry N. Cruse Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 ---------------- On 3/28/2001 11:54:00 PM William F. Gil McDermott wrote: Squawker is PWK's subroquet for the midrange. Dogs woof. Birds tweet. I don't really know what kinda critters squawk. A study in onamotapoetics too. Gil ---------------- Ooooops see later TC quote about screwdrivers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtximages Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 Back to the dampening issue. I used rope caulk on my la scalas. it made them less resonant but still overly bright. the midrange would drown out the highs and lows. i used (dont laugh) fabric softener sheets and placed them between the small gap between the horn throat opening and the driver assembly. They do not degrade the sound yet they take a few db's off. it actually stacked about 5 or 6 pieces on top of one another to do this. it makes a huge difference. i wouldnt do this if i were puting on a concert but it makes them so much more listenable in any room. it makes the highs sound crisper and stand out more. and the midrange is still just as strong, it just brings it down to the level of the highs and lows. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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