eth2 Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) Great basic soldering video set http://tubehifi.websitetoolbox.com/post/total-newbie-seriously-considering-sob-but-have-never-soldered-6725094 Edited May 16, 2016 by eth2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eth2 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) Great basic soldering video set http://tubehifi.websitetoolbox.com/post/total-newbie-seriously-considering-sob-but-have-never-soldered-6725094 Edited May 16, 2016 by eth2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eth2 Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 Great basic soldering video set http://tubehifi.websitetoolbox.com/post/total-newbie-seriously-considering-sob-but-have-never-soldered-6725094 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Thats pretty Cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Always use 63/37, unless your leads are silver - then use a good silver based solder (I like WBT). Almost all solder now has a rosin core, so you don't really need flux unless the working area has been compromised. If you are working with new parts - you don't need it. Don't feed the solder into the tip - ever. Slightly wet the tip, and then press the tip into the lead AND whatever is holding it. The entire area has to be at the same temperature. Mass is much higher with point-to-point. Use heat sinks on your leads and protect your parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Dean, did you ever run across stranded wire that has black oxidization all through it? It seems like even good flux can't clean it off. I blame it on cheap copper coated aluminum, but I could be wrong. I've see it several times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Doesnt Jupiter have stranded copper and silver wiring in cloth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Sargent Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 did you ever run across stranded wire that has black oxidization all through it? This happens a lot. It can be caused by a mountain of different things. A few I've seen are salt water, battery acid, and poorly made wire. Once the wire is in this condition it is impossible (for me anyway) to solder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Zinc chloride liquid flux can clean that as well as making stainless steel solderable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Good to know (which I didn't). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) Zinc chloride liquid flux can clean that as well as making stainless steel solderable. Thank you, I didn't know that. I have been in circumstances where I absolutely had to use that crappy black wire, and I usually used emery and worked it until the wire was cleaned off. Huge PITA. I would rather replace this wire, but when it is going into a big wire harness, sometimes it's the only way. Point of note. I figured out a great way to clean paint off electrical wire. Scotch pad and brake fluid. It doesn't eat into the insulation, the brake fluid slowly dissolves the paint while making the insulation more rubbery and resistant to the scotch pad. I cleaned a ton of them on that 66 Beatle I did. All of these wires were painted black: Edited May 16, 2016 by mustang guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I think that is considered acidic flux so don't use it on circuit boards. I would think you would have to clean after (water soluble). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red1302 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Thank you for the link to the video. John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) Yes, nice video within limits. I've been very happy with my Weller WES51 which is the $100 analog type. I'm a broken record on that. There are similar ones by other manufactures. Hakko comes up in ham reviews. There is so much in the video about tip and barrel size that anyone is left wondering what to do making a selection of those items. IMHO, the Weller out of the box tip is a nice "momma bear" choice. Yup, not suited for soldering to big pieces of brass-copper, or tiny pcb pads. Most people here are doing neither with crossovers. The video is a bit dismissive of temperature controlled irons, like the Weller. IMHO, unwarranted. The video goes on to describe problems with work piece temperature and damaging the board, if not components, and that these must be addressed by careful technique. True. IMHO the temperature controlled iron does a lot to address that. The eutectic solder gets only a brief mention. I really like it. Of course soldering takes a bit of learning. When you're an expert you can work with the cheap RS or PE irons when you must. But newbies will be best served by a temperature controlled unit. Experts will not work with anything else. You'll also need a bulb type solder sucker. Molten metal has the viscosity of water and the bulb type unit will clear the old solder. Yup you need to clear the nozzle with a paper clip, and some swear words sometimes -- but not always. I'll now shut up about soldering for a year. WMcD Edited May 17, 2016 by WMcD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 All true. I especially liked the section on "WPI". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I invested in a rather extravagant desoldering tool. The Hakko FR-300. I like it a lot. It does so much in so little time. It wasn't a need, it was a luxury! Incidentally, I just use a propane torch to clean my bulb. Heat, then squeeze. Everything spits right out good as new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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