skip Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 So I see the R7III are now on preorder for $1800 each. I was reading and couldn't really find a difference between the two. Can someone shed some light on this for me? I see the R7II are $1279 until December 5th. I keep saying I was going to buy a set of the R7II but once I heard the R7III were coming out I decided to wait to see if the wait was worth it. So is the R7III worth the extra $521 each? That is another thousand dollars when you buy the pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Sorry about this skip, but it is irresistible. The difference between III and II is I. Seriously though, let's invoke @Chief bonehead and see what he has to say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkevind Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Not to be cheeky, but if you read the Klipsch page on the RF-7III, they pretty much lay out what is new. In addition to these things, I'm sure the crossover is a bit different as well. Probably the biggest change is the molded-rubber horn with circular throat. All-New 1 3/4" Titanium Compression Driver The compression driver features a new phase plug design to improve phase coherency at the throat of the horn, resulting in improved sound pressure linearity at high frequencies. 90x90 Compressed Molded-Rubber Tractrix Horn The redesigned Tractrix Horn utilizes a circular horn throat paired to a square horn mouth to further improve high-frequency response and extension, while enhancing imaging and dynamics. The compressed molded rubber construction adds high frequency damping to reduce harshness and improve detail. This creates the cleanest, most natural sound possible. Redesigned Bifurcated Cabinet The RF-7 III new bifurcated enclosure allows each 10” driver and port to work independently from the other. This improves the linearity of both drive systems, and minimizes standing wave problems inside the cabinet that can cause frequency anomalies in the sensitive midrange frequencies. Dual Tractrix Ports Utilizing Tractrix geometry, the new RF-7 III ports allow for the most efficient air transfer from the cabinet — for the cleanest, most powerful low frequency response on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 20 minutes ago, bkevind said: Not to be cheeky, but if you read the Klipsch page on the RF-7III, they pretty much lay out what is new. Those are the technical differences, but in real life, "how is the sound different" is the question. Being a bit cheeky here, does the RF-7 III sound $1000 better than the RF-7 II? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 That's why we invoke @Chief bonehead. But you are in your safe space, aren't you? Furthermore, bkevind's post describes how the sound is different. But it's easy to be cheeky from your safe space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I keep getting this message. Any ideas why? Quote You've chosen to ignore content by oldtimer. Options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, wvu80 said: I keep getting this message. Any ideas why? Yes. It's because you are in your safe space. You might need some more cocoa. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Another post ignored! I'm guessing some troll must really be steamed! Quote You've chosen to ignore content by oldtimer. Options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Oh dear yes. I am so steamed. Good grief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 If it were me I think I'd take the old RF-7 II's. They still have a fantastic sound and I'd put the extra thousand into the wvu80 retirement fund. Or maybe a nice 5-channel external amp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I'd for the llls, even more world class than the lls. I think they even look better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Well the reason why I asked because when I looked at the floor standing speakers page. In the little box it says about the R7III having new titanium 1 3/4 horn. Yet the older R7II says basicly the same thing just in a different way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 hour ago, skip said: In the little box it says about the R7III having new titanium 1 3/4 horn. Yet the older R7II says basicly the same thing just in a different way. Now arguing for the other side...... It has been my experience that making a little change makes a little difference. When you add all the little differences together you really can get a significantly better sound. Klipsch is on record as saying they have been listening to their customers, and I believe them. When you add in the engineering genius of the chief designer Roy Delgado, even though I haven't heard them, I absolutely believe the III will be the best sounding RF-7 ever. EDIT: It has come to my attention Roy was NOT the lead engineer. I apologize for my mistake. I would suggest you listen to both if you can, and let your ears be your guide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 13 minutes ago, wvu80 said: When you add in the engineering genius of the chief designer Roy Delgado, For the record, he is @Chief bonehead that I have mentioned earlier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 44 minutes ago, wvu80 said: Now arguing for the other side...... It has been my experience that making a little change makes a little difference. When you add all the little differences together you really can get a significantly better sound. Klipsch is on record as saying they have been listening to their customers, and I believe them. When you add in the engineering genius of the chief designer Roy Delgado, even though I haven't heard them, I absolutely believe the III will be the best sounding RF-7 ever. I would suggest you listen to both if you can, and let your ears be your guide. The lead engineer on these is a guy in Indianapolis named Chris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, Ceptorman said: The lead engineer on these is a guy in Indianapolis named Chris. Oh, my apologies to the lead engineer! I thought I read comments months ago by @Chief bonehead! Credit where credit is due. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, wvu80 said: Oh, my apologies to the lead engineer! I thought I read comments months ago by @Chief bonehead! Credit where credit is due. You might have, I think they share info. Roy did the Forte lll and all of the cinema stuff, Chris does most of the consumer side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jirachi Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Would be curious to know how a molded rubber horn would affect something like a CF4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TasDom Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 4 hours ago, bkevind said: Redesigned Bifurcated Cabinet Had to look that one up....... bifurcated Anything that is divided into two parts can be described as bifurcated. The tips of snakes’ tongues are bifurcated so that they can detect slight differences between scents on their left and right sides while probing the territory ahead. The verb bifurcate comes from the Latin word bifurcus, meaning “two-forked.” Bifurcated describes anything that is divided in two: when a road splits into two diverging directions — known as “a fork in the road” — the road is bifurcated. The human brain is often described as bifurcated because the right hemisphere controls movement of the left side of the body while he left hemisphere controls most language and movement of the right side of the body. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 hour ago, wvu80 said: Oh, my apologies to the lead engineer! I thought I read comments months ago by @Chief bonehead! Credit where credit is due. Chris made a very cool guitar amp and few years ago with four RF7ll woofers and the horn. He built the crossovers, amp, and the cabinet. Pretty handy guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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