Emile Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Hi All, Quick question ... picking up a pair Of Heresy I's this coming Wednesday and one has a blown (?) K-77 tweeter. So; will replace the diaphragms (in both). Yes; know to stay away from the aftermarket Chinese crap Normally would buy them from Bob Crites ... but SimplySpeakers.com is 5 miles away from me and of course I want to fix them "now." Their diaphragm https://www.simplyspeakers.com/klipsch-replacement-speaker-diaphragm-k77-89486a-2.html has been used/reviewed by @CECAA850, @moray james(I think) with results as "good." But believe @jason str labeled them as garbage Should I just (wait a couple of days) and get the Crites' ones or are the diaphragms from SimplySpeakers the same? Many Thanks, Emile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Can't go wrong with Bob. He's getting some in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, CECAA850 said: He's getting some in? Did not email him ... he's "out" of stock on these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 Just emailed him to see if "in stock." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, Emile said: Did not email him ... he's "out" of stock on these? Last time I bought some he was out of stock and didnt know when he'd get more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 Response from Bob ... "Those are a cheap Chinese made clone that are simply terrible." So; DO NOT GET THESE! Cheers, Emile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson3 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 I'd love to see some response curves on several of the Chinese knockoff diaphragms vs a properly functioning original - got any examples ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 you are thinking of the ti tweeter replacement for the K76 tweeter. Bob can sell you an improved phenolic tweeter which is a direct drop in for the K77 the CT125 or other better units to fit your budget. The CT125 are very good I used them in my Heresy and liked them a lot very smooth. good luck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 8:53 AM, moray james said: Bob can sell you an improved phenolic tweeter Those are the ones that he no longer has. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just for the record ... got a response from SimplySpeakers ... Quote "we have never had any performance issues with these, and we sell a LOT of them. I am sure we would have heard of any issues by now. Occasionally someone (including us) goofs an install and gets a rub or poor performance, but its not due to the quality of the part. FYI, these are not produced in China, they are made in Thailand (if that matters?!)" EndQuote who knows Guess for $20 I might try one if I need it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 Add-on ... replaced my K-77 tweeter diaphragm with one by SimplySpeakers.com ... https://www.simplyspeakers.com/klipsch-replacement-speaker-diaphragm-k77-89486a.html#tab-3 . (Talked to the General Manager and he assured me they were "NOT" the crappy Chinese ones.) Tested it with frequencies up to 18KHz (OK; that's where my hearing stops ) and it sounded very clear. (Heard the Chinese ones barely get to 15KHz.) Also tested it with Perlman's Tchaikovsky's #1 Violin Concerto ... very clear. OK; going to replace the second (working) tweeter diaphragm ... as we all know they have to be done "in pairs." Just my 2 cents. Cheers, Emile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Emile said: very clear. I didn't measure the ones I installed either but they certainly sounded fine to me as well. Maybe Bob measured a different diaphragm from a different manufacturer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, CECAA850 said: Maybe Bob measured a different diaphragm from a different manufacturer YEAH; pretty sure these are the "real thing." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Emile said: YEAH; pretty sure these are the "real thing." The "real thing" would be OEM Klipsch. But if they sound good to you, that's all that matters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Buy a better tweeter. Seriously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson3 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 do the little round "bullet" tweeters such as B&C De35 and its PRV knockoff , blend well in Klipsch setups? They would be hard to fit in place of a K77. Here's my right K-horn with mic axis between the K400 mid and K77 tweeter horns - MBGO caps I've probably not heard 18KHz since 1968 ;^( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 30 minutes ago, Deang said: Buy a better tweeter. Seriously. Yes ... but these are just on my home 7.1 A/V system ... got KPT-904's on a seperate amp for "better" sound. Still very impressed by these "small" Heresy's. Add-on ... got the Bob Crites CT125's for my Cornwall's ... did not notice much of a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Still like the Beyma CP-25, but don’t like the horizontal orientation. I think the B&C de-120 is very, very nice sounding. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Btw, if Bob says those diaphragms are junk - they are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 29 minutes ago, Deang said: Btw, if Bob says those diaphragms are junk - they are. Usually believe Bob. But think he is wrong on these. Tested them to 18KHZ (limit of my hearing ) and they sound very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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