Pilk Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (Posted this in general info and thought this might be a better part of the forum for my questions. ) Hey K fans. I'm redoing my HT and moving toward a music room because I spend 90% of my time watching sports on mute while I listen to music. I been around and around with my decision making. I will keep the HT options in room. I will have 2 Stereo Integrity HS-24 sealed subs (I know...overkill). I have a couple ACA's to start for L-R speakers. The room is 12x18 with a listening distance about 11" from the front wall. Room is well treated, with carpet and lots of leather seating. Really between the Forte IV, La Scala II (or AL5 if I lose my mind) and possibly the CWIV. Here's my dumb question. Can the plinths be removed from any of the Heritage speakers? If that's possible the shorter speaker dimensions opens up better toe-in for the La Scala and brings the CW into the mix. Two La Scala II's will fit flanking my screen wall but they will be in the corner with just a small amount of toe-in possible. I would be able to add a Heresy for a center if I felt I need it but I think a phantom center will be fine. My next room will not be restricted by height so I'm keeping that in mind. It will be a bigger space too. The next option is to get the Forte IV (maybe a 3rd for a center) and be done with it. They would fit perfectly under my screen which opens up options on positioning. I don't really like the idea of having to move them out into the room as is recommended but they will be more flexible than the La Scala. The Forte's are an easier option but the La Scala mystique keeps drawing me back to it. There's no WAF involved here but when we move I fully intend to move this 2.2 channel system into the main living room. By that time I will have convinced her its worth while. Cornwalls just clip off the bottom of my screen and I could live with it but not sure its really worth fighting with when I could just do the Forte IV's. If they can be shortened they work and with the front ports might be easier to position. I know you guys probably hate these threads but trying to make a decision before too long as my old speakers are headed to Texas next week. I'm considering a really nice set of LS II's or new Forte IV's. Money is always a consideration but this is probably my last go around with gear so I will spend if I want to (no Jubes tho LOL). My last setup lasted 8 years so I don't swap out much. Belles would also work but I just don't see much come up for sale. I suspect you guys get tired of these but looking for thoughts from the experienced Klipsch addicts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, Pilk said: Really between the Forte IV, La Scala II (or AL5 if I lose my mind) and possibly the CWIV. Here's my dumb question. Can the plinths be removed from any of the Heritage speakers? If that's possible the shorter speaker dimensions opens up better toe-in for the La Scala and brings the CW into the mix. Lascala II , or Cornwall IV , both speakers should have low prices on used speakers , in the 4k$ range 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Chi-town Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Yes, the risers can be removed on the forte IV, and Cornwall IV. Not certain about the Lascala, but my guess would be yes. I highly recommend the forte IV. Regards, John 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) The fortes are rear ported. @Pilk Edited December 19, 2022 by billybob Passive Radiator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilk Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, billybob said: The fortes are rear ported.[ @Pilk Yes...which seems to make placement from the wall important. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Pilk said: Yes...which seems to make placement from the wall important. Yes rear passive Radiator. Do you have a foot or more, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilk Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, billybob said: Yes rear passive Radiator. Do you have a foot or more, maybe? Yes...more if I need it but them the MLP gets under 10'....not sure if that matters much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Pilk said: Yes...more if I need it but them the MLP gets under 10'....not sure if that matters much. You may not need more but good to have some room for tweaking the bass. Is your TV mounted or just needs raising some? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, Pilk said: Yes...more if I need it but them the MLP gets under 10'....not sure if that matters much. Well, do not want to talk you out of Cornwall, or LS as I tend to lean larger. Seems that you will be putting the system flanking TV on the 12 feet side of the room. Correct if wrong. Do not know why Cornwall would interfere with screen unless, you have no control over it. Also, 10 foot is decent enough from speaker front. Guess putting audio system on either end of the 18 foot is out. Will wait to say more but, like the phantom center idea. Others will say more. Yes, it is difficult...Bet the Fortes would be a decent choice, then again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilk Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, billybob said: Well, do not want to talk you out of Cornwall, or LS as I tend to lean larger. Seems that you will be putting the system flanking TV on the 12 feet side of the room. Correct if wrong. Do not know why Cornwall would interfere with screen unless, you have no control over it. Also, 10 foot is decent enough from speaker front. Guess putting audio system on either end of the 18 foot is out. Will wait to say more but, like the phantom center idea. Others will say more. Yes, it is difficult...Bet the Fortes would be a decent choice, then again... Its a projection screen and I can't go higher. Yes the room is locked into the 12' front wall. The next room will not have that restriction. The distance from the floor to the bottom of the screen is 36". I've got 26" on either side of the screen so if the speakers stay in the corner I don't care how tall they are. The Cornwalls clip off the lower corners by a few inches. The LS's fit into that corner and the Forte's fit anywhere I want. BTW how much of the screen wall would a KHorn take up looking at them straight on (if that makes sense)? I never see measurement that give the wall space needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilk Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) The new speaks will go into the corners. The monster subs are replaced by smaller sealed boxes. I think without a center I might opt for a rack for my gear rather than in the cabinet to the right. Edited December 19, 2022 by Pilk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 If the next room will not have the same constraints, would go with what you want and anything meanwhile just abit of a nuisance, short lived. If am understanding. Any of the speakers mentioned should work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 It’s good to be planning for the future, but how long will you be staying in your current home? If it’s a few months or less, and you’ll be moving into a bigger space, do whatever seems right for that space, because any annoyances about space where you live now will soon be over. On the other hand, are you in a hurry to upgrade? Maybe just keep your present system for now, and keep putting money aside for your “final” system. That way, you’ll be in a better position to see what does work in your new room, instead of hauling in the speakers that you figured “should” work in the room. As for Cornwalls, they can be turned on their sides and still sound fine. They used to actually come in vertical or horizontal models, to suit their individual situations. You mentioned that you currently have “ACA’s” for left and right speakers. What are they? We (some of us, anyway) don’t mind these threads, because it’s always fun to help somebody spend their money. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilk Posted December 26, 2022 Author Share Posted December 26, 2022 16 hours ago, Islander said: It’s good to be planning for the future, but how long will you be staying in your current home? If it’s a few months or less, and you’ll be moving into a bigger space, do whatever seems right for that space, because any annoyances about space where you live now will soon be over. On the other hand, are you in a hurry to upgrade? Maybe just keep your present system for now, and keep putting money aside for your “final” system. That way, you’ll be in a better position to see what does work in your new room, instead of hauling in the speakers that you figured “should” work in the room. As for Cornwalls, they can be turned on their sides and still sound fine. They used to actually come in vertical or horizontal models, to suit their individual situations. You mentioned that you currently have “ACA’s” for left and right speakers. What are they? We (some of us, anyway) don’t mind these threads, because it’s always fun to help somebody spend their money. Amp Camp Amps are Nelson Pass DIY class A amps that run balanced mono at 20w/channel. As efficient as the Klipsch Heritage stuff is it should work out. I tend to think big and stick with my gear. My last set up lasted 7-8 years. I've already dismantled the system and everything has found a new home so my next goal is to audition as many speakers as I can but definitely want to hear the Forte, CW and LS in a decent room somewhere. So rare to find demo opportunities where I live. As much as anything this is an effort to find something new to play with and enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the real Duke Spinner Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 My Forte 11 we're spectacular Never could get over the honking mid horn in my CW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 A good tip is to cut out some cardboard with the dimensions of depth and width. It can help figure out the space they will take up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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