KenMD Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I currently live in a new home and have to use our great room for watching movies, listening to music, etc. My wife and I are in our 70's and have downsized. The sound equipment we have are: Marantz SR7015 Klipsch RF 83 Front Klipsch RC 64 1st release purchased shortly after the RF 83's Velodyne Optimum 12 Sub The Fives for surround connected wirelessly to avoid cables on the floor Bowers and Wilkens 4 each CCM663 ceiling speakers for Atmos I am considering purchasing the Forte IV to replace the RF 83's and want opinions, Is the 7015 ok for power and would this be a good upgrade? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 51 minutes ago, KenMD said: I am considering purchasing the Forte IV to replace the RF 83's , Is the 7015 ok for power the Forte IV should work fine with the 7015 , being it's rated at 125 wpc in stereo mode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Hello, you would be mixing reference speakers read, home theater speakers with speakers typically designed for 2 channel stereo historically. While you can, you will likely have a timbre conflict. The 83 are decent speakers and a near tossup when paired against the rf-7 even, per Michael Stevens testing a few years back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 As Billybob has mentioned, mixing Heritage with Reference will mess with timbre, this may or may not be important to you. If not, you should be fine running the Fortes with the Marantz as I run Cornwall IVs with a Marantz SR5015 with no issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMD Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 If I understand this correctly when watching a movie the Fortes will not be a perfect match to the center channel speaker, would it be that bad? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Not as important to me as to some. Will likely get used to it. May not notice. Think you may even like them more for music in direct 2 channel mode. Think you both may agree on movie sounds. Alot of maybe. Taste of what you have now may overide the combination.The Marantz with it's features may well help with matching. If you close your eyes, your ears may not discern anything different. Just do not discount the main floorstanders you have now, if you are happy with. Welcome @KenMD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 hours ago, KenMD said: If I understand this correctly when watching a movie the Fortes will not be a perfect match to the center channel speaker, would it be that bad? the Forte IV will do fine with the RC-64 center plus you already own other speakers with different timbres already and so far , this is un-noticeable ..the other solution would be to buy the RF-7 III instead of the Forte IV to have a perfectly matched timbre up front , the difference between both speakers is a tad more bass and a more detailed HF for the Forte IV . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMD Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 Based on the age of my speakers I thought an upgrade might be in order and I like the old look of the Forte, reminds me of the pioneers I bought while in Viet Nam that are long gone. However if they are no better than what I have then my wife will be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, KenMD said: Based on the age of my speakers I thought an upgrade might be in order and I like the old look of the Forte, reminds me of the pioneers I bought while in Viet Nam that are long gone. However if they are no better than what I have then my wife will be happy. Not wanting to deprive you with opinions. Buy new or used Klipsch for another room if you want to @KenMD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 hours ago, KenMD said: reminds me of the pioneers I bought while in Viet Nam that are long gone. you must have been quite a young guy to serve in Nam , the war ended in 1975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMD Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 I was drafted in 1969 at age 20, I was 21-22 when in Viet Nam, I worked on Chinooks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 On 1/7/2024 at 10:46 AM, KenMD said: I currently live in a new home and have to use our great room for watching movies, listening to music, etc. My wife and I are in our 70's and have downsized. The sound equipment we have are: Marantz SR7015 Klipsch RF 83 Front Klipsch RC 64 1st release purchased shortly after the RF 83's Velodyne Optimum 12 Sub The Fives for surround connected wirelessly to avoid cables on the floor Bowers and Wilkens 4 each CCM663 ceiling speakers for Atmos I am considering purchasing the Forte IV to replace the RF 83's and want opinions, Is the 7015 ok for power and would this be a good upgrade? Fwiw, you have a very nice system already and I would listen to the Forte IVs before considering them an "upgrade." It's easy to spend someone else's money and at what cost? Regardless, thank you for your service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/7/2024 at 10:46 AM, KenMD said: I currently live in a new home and have to use our great room for watching movies, listening to music, etc. My wife and I are in our 70's and have downsized. The sound equipment we have are: Marantz SR7015 Klipsch RF 83 Front Klipsch RC 64 1st release purchased shortly after the RF 83's Velodyne Optimum 12 Sub The Fives for surround connected wirelessly to avoid cables on the floor Bowers and Wilkens 4 each CCM663 ceiling speakers for Atmos I am considering purchasing the Forte IV to replace the RF 83's and want opinions, Is the 7015 ok for power and would this be a good upgrade? Or you can add the Forte IV's along with a separate 2 channel system (with an older Pioneer receiver) similar to what I did except with RF7 1's and Forte 1's. I don't mix the two systems when listening, it's either HT with the RF-7/RC-7/RS-7 or two channel with the Forte's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I've had Fortes sustaining 110 db on bass boosted Eminem with a 40 watt half sized Marantz NR 1607 so yeah it will work fine. However you compare it with a class A external amp and crank it up and you'll be able to hear some passages where the amp will do better so I wouldn't have any delusions about thinking that receiver is the best it can possibly get. Biggest problem with receivers is that when there are big dynamics that coincide with an impedance dip, which will happen, the receiver can kind of choke and you can hear it. At lower volumes you probably won't be able to tell them apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 1/9/2024 at 4:35 AM, KenMD said: I was drafted in 1969 at age 20, I was 21-22 when in Viet Nam, I worked on Chinooks. Thank you for your service to our nation. You guys did not get treated right upon your return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Paducah Home Theater said: I've had Fortes sustaining 110 db on bass boosted Eminem with a 40 watt half sized Marantz NR 1607 so yeah it will work fine.... Biggest problem with receivers is that when there are big dynamics that coincide with an impedance dip, which will happen, the receiver can kind of choke and you can hear it. At lower volumes you probably won't be able to tell them apart. Interesting...Where are the impedance dips on the Fortes that cause the most problems? 🤔 I actually thought they could be classified as "8 Ohm" speakers because they didn't have the jagged Frequency Response Curve that affected the RF-7s (and assumed others in the Reference line and below). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Zen Traveler said: Interesting...Where are the impedance dips on the Fortes that cause the most problems? 🤔 I actually thought they could be classified as "8 Ohm" speakers because they didn't have the jagged Frequency Response Curve that affected the RF-7s (and assumed others in the Reference line and below). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Thanks for posting this @Paducah Home Theater. There are no frequencies that dip below 4 Ohms so I don't understand where the Fortes would struggle using a quality, mid-grade AVR... 2 hours ago, Paducah Home Theater said: I've had Fortes sustaining 110 db on bass boosted Eminem with a 40 watt half sized Marantz NR 1607 so yeah it will work fine. Impressive and that's with a lower end AVR. 😮 Did you hear any clipping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 1/9/2024 at 7:35 AM, KenMD said: I was drafted in 1969 at age 20, I was 21-22 when in Viet Nam, I worked on Chinooks. 2 years working on transport Chinooks in an action zone , now that 's some serious work experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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