Marvel Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Tom, I'm curious how you are applying the veneer. Are you using the glue and iron on method or some other adhesive? I can't believe that it would cup on you. Marvel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 18, 2004 Author Share Posted October 18, 2004 marvel, in the reading I did before starting the veneering project I ran across several references to panels cupping if veneered one side only. I believe it's expected. I'm using the iron-on method with TiteBond II glue. The stuff makes a killer bond. I've got more pics, but haven't tried to post again since the forum was not working. I need to take some time to sort through the pics and re-name them. I was able to get the sides and top of the bass bin on today, so that looks like a little actual progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 ---------------- On 10/18/2004 10:55:06 PM Tom Mobley wrote: in the reading I did before starting the veneering project I ran across several references to panels cupping if veneered one side only. I believe it's expected. ---------------- The part i don't understand is why it warped even though you veneered both sides? Perhaps the time interval between the two was too long? Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 19, 2004 Author Share Posted October 19, 2004 still can't post pics. I might have to dig around and resurrect some of my old web space. I don't know if it's still usable. I just dunno why it did the warping thing. the panel started out flat, stayed flat after veneering one side, cupped after veneering the other side, but re-veneering the first side didn't help at all. wonder why they're not fixing the forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 Man I need to venture out of 2 channel now and then Nice job Tom you have been a busy bee ! Curious did you ever find the hum in your 222C ? Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 19, 2004 Author Share Posted October 19, 2004 craig, haven't looked at it much. too much other stuff to do. I'll get after it agsin one of these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 Well, they got the forum fixed, so here's a few pics. I left off on page 2 of this thread whining about how the bottom panel cupped on me after veneering on both sides. (see page 2 if interested). I tried putting another layer of veneer on it, didn't help. I mounted the doghouse on it with sort of heavy-duty attachment, didn't help in the front, but helped some in the back where the doghouse is wider. here's a pic of the drilled for the doghouse install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 here's the bottom all screwed down, I countersank (is that a word?) the holes generously, didn't want anything sticking out of the bottom later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 a view of the cupped panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 here it is looking it's worst, straight piece across it, pinned down on one end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 here's my solution, which I didn't think of until I was standing there looking at the riser piece with the gaps on the ends. Yes, that's my 70 Chevelle in the background. Owned it since 87, has 300K on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 and another view, the bottom is as flat as the proverbial pancake now. tripled in the front, doubled in the back. The extra pieces are glued and screwed together, solid as a rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 on the saw table, the end result is good, no rocking at all. This table saw is cast iron with cast iron wings, it's very flat according to my machinists straightedge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 here's the assembly of the rest of the bin. I glue'n'nscrewed the top to the doghouse, measuring and squaring carefully, then attached one side. used the saw for flat table, and a piece of leftover riser material as an alignment block while I glued it on and hit it with a dozen or so 2" brads into the bottom and top panel. Then I realized it would be easier to just set it on end on the floor and install the other side. No sweat. Lots of glue though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 here's the product so far. still need to do the butterfly wings and the back, install a few glue blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 down the top corner/edge. pretty straight if I do say so myself. Looks better now, I've filled the brad holes, getting ready for veneering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 reasonably square too. the end of the square is within 1/32" of the top. I'm pretty happy with how this is coming together. The insides of the side and top panels get flat black paint. The front and sides of the riser are veneered and finished along with the front raw edges of the plywood. the outsides of the panels will be veneered and finished like the center front panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 any of the guys looking at this think I should in-line the images to cut down on the clicking and loading? It wouldn't be very nice for the dial-up guys. Of course, they would only have to wait once that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I myself like pics right in the post, as in my thread on restoring a bass horn throat. I have dial-up, and the pics didn't take that long IMO, certainly not as long as some we've seen. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 Well, I inlined the images on this page. If I get time I'll do the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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