arfandbark Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 It started with my beloved Cornwalls. These speakers have been in my neighborhood since new. But what do I have? Belgaudio gave me a clue. I knew Klipsch Cornwalls were good, but how good? What did that all mean? I dunno. Being the newbie I am, I decide I need an H/K 3480 to get the utmost out of the Cornwalls. Oopsie one. $330.00 later I have my 3480 singing along in my living room. It's all fine while it's new but after more listening sessions I find the high end is wearing me down. Fatiguing, I guess it's called. Extremely fatiguing.. Enter the Klipsch Forum. I'd like to thank HDBR, Chris Robinson, Seadog,Daddy Dee, BEC and anyone else who I'm forgetting @ the moment with regard to my purchasing a H/K 730. What a difference! Again, I thank you all. I do notice that the 730 has a tendancy to "lose it's grip" at higher listening levels. This creates a problem in that sometimes I like my music louder than the 730 wants to play cleanly. More about you people. I never knew my speakers had crossovers, not to mention they can be tweaked. I never knew you had to have a pre amp to run power amps. Before this year, I thought all you needed was a receiver. Are these berrypoints going toward my VRDs? Woof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Are these berrypoints going toward my VRDs? Not sure how you collect berry points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Thanks woof. Glad you found your way here. I have found the company here to be generous and hospitable. You are gonna love the VRD's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 I don't know, I've been kissing Craig's *** all year, and the price keeps going up. I'm going to take the opposite approach and see if the price comes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 ---------------- On 1/1/2005 12:52:23 AM DeanG wrote: I don't know, I've been kissing Craig's *** all year, and the price keeps going up. I'm going to take the opposite approach and see if the price comes down. ---------------- Wow! Dean. You need to watch your wording there, buddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tillmbil Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 I had the chance to spend some time at my dads yesterday, where I keep my 74 Khorn and Scott 299D. I played some of my favorite songs and realized that I like the sound of my home two channel setup way better. THe environment where the Khorns are kept, and the CD player are far from ideal, but the sound seems colored. The bass is very mushy, and way more apparent than with my CW's. So why bring this up you ask? The right gear and room setup can definitely make speakers sound good or bad depending. Kind of amazed me. VRD's, Blueberry and Cornwalls are an incredible mix. New crossovers for the Cornwalls did not hurt either. SO Woof, if you are heading in that direction you will be amazed again. I have an HK430 and a HK630, and the VRD's make them pale in comparison. It is definitely worth the investment, and the volume will not let you down. What I noticed with CW's and SS gear, is that as you turn it up it becomes uncomfortable at higher listening levels. The sound starts to get bright and scream at you. Can even be annoying. With the VRD's you can just keep going louder, but as you turn the volume knob it really does not seem to be getting louder. You do not really notice how loud it is until you try to speak to someone in the room. The you say d** the music is way to loud. Does this make since to you? THat is what I consider good gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 ---------------- On 1/1/2005 12:52:23 AM DeanG wrote: I don't know, I've been kissing Craig's *** all year, and the price keeps going up. I'm going to take the opposite approach and see if the price comes down. ---------------- Price just went up for you again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 ---------------- On 1/1/2005 8:55:35 AM tillmbil wrote: I had the chance to spend some time at my dads yesterday, where I keep my 74 Khorn and Scott 299D. I played some of my favorite songs and realized that I like the sound of my home two channel setup way better. THe environment where the Khorns are kept, and the CD player are far from ideal, but the sound seems colored. The bass is very mushy, and way more apparent than with my CW's. So why bring this up you ask? The right gear and room setup can definitely make speakers sound good or bad depending. Kind of amazed me. VRD's, Blueberry and Cornwalls are an incredible mix. New crossovers for the Cornwalls did not hurt either. SO Woof, if you are heading in that direction you will be amazed again. I have an HK430 and a HK630, and the VRD's make them pale in comparison. It is definitely worth the investment, and the volume will not let you down. What I noticed with CW's and SS gear, is that as you turn it up it becomes uncomfortable at higher listening levels. The sound starts to get bright and scream at you. Can even be annoying. With the VRD's you can just keep going louder, but as you turn the volume knob it really does not seem to be getting louder. You do not really notice how loud it is until you try to speak to someone in the room. The you say d** the music is way to loud. Does this make since to you? THat is what I consider good gear. ---------------- When the music is clean loud just isn't loud anymore ! I truly believe most people that say things like "anything above 95dB hurts my ears" just don't have enough headroom. 95dB with 5% distortion should hurt your ears I could careless what type of distortion it is. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 ---------------- On 1/1/2005 8:55:35 AM tillmbil wrote: I had the chance to spend some time at my dads yesterday, where I keep my 74 Khorn and Scott 299D. I played some of my favorite songs and realized that I like the sound of my home two channel setup way better. THe environment where the Khorns are kept, and the CD player are far from ideal, but the sound seems colored. The bass is very mushy, and way more apparent than with my CW's. So why bring this up you ask? The right gear and room setup can definitely make speakers sound good or bad depending. Kind of amazed me. VRD's, Blueberry and Cornwalls are an incredible mix. New crossovers for the Cornwalls did not hurt either. SO Woof, if you are heading in that direction you will be amazed again. I have an HK430 and a HK630, and the VRD's make them pale in comparison. It is definitely worth the investment, and the volume will not let you down. What I noticed with CW's and SS gear, is that as you turn it up it becomes uncomfortable at higher listening levels. The sound starts to get bright and scream at you. Can even be annoying. With the VRD's you can just keep going louder, but as you turn the volume knob it really does not seem to be getting louder. You do not really notice how loud it is until you try to speak to someone in the room. The you say d** the music is way to loud. Does this make since to you? THat is what I consider good gear. ---------------- Bill, nice post. I can totally relate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 ARF; You learned more in a year than some learn in a decade. Like my friend with $ 8000 Martin Logans that have no soundstage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 I've decided I'm done learning. The more I learn, the more money I spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfandbark Posted January 2, 2005 Author Share Posted January 2, 2005 Not too happy about you guys upping the price on the VRDS. Good thing shipping will be cheap.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tillmbil Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Thats becasue Criag loves us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 ---------------- On 1/2/2005 3:37:47 AM arfandbark wrote: Not too happy about you guys upping the price on the VRDS. Good thing shipping will be cheap....---------------- Heck I have one customer in his audiogon profile listed them as costing $3500. I wish !!! I think he is includung the money he spent on Genelax KT88's though but it would be nice if he specified that. Oh and the price hike in this thread is just to Dean ! Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Arf, are those vintage HK or new AVRs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfandbark Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 Colin, I have the 70's vintage twin powered H/K 730. $81.00 + shipping on Ebay. Got it home, gave it a cleaning w/Caig's and it's been fine ever since. One fine receiver for the price.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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