ooteedee Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 While building LaScalas for the Barn.....it occured to me that critters may find the inside of the Speakers a cozy place to live. Like mice, bugs, etc. Seriously! I'm not too worried about someone moving into the mid/high bin. That's easily cleanable. I'm more worried about somebody getting into the woofer from the motorboard opening. Like a ton of Ladybugs. Or worse...a hungry mouse with a taste for paper cones. Besides blaring speed metal music 24 hours a day to drive away any critters ........would a small piece of window screen material....stapled over the outside of the woofer motorboard opening be out of the question? Window screening shouldn't muffle sound, right? Thanks. PS: I want to avoid just making a fabric covering for the front of the speaker. The design of the LaScala is just too cool for that. PPS: Also, if 2 to 3 hundred ladybugs DID cozy up next to the woofer, how would that effect frequency response? Assuming each ladybug weighed .0002 grams and had a bio-organic density of .25/litres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 That's not a bad idea at all. In fact, the Khorn bass bin comes equipped with wire screen on the back for that very reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Actually the mice won't eat the paper cone. What they will do is drag a bunch of nesting material into the space beteen the cone and the throat opening and set up housekeeping. use 1/4" screening to keep out the varmints. DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooteedee Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 1/4" screening? 1/4" thick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popbumper Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Hehehe-I would not think that "stored speakers" in barns or the like would be a common occurence, though believe me you, in the hunt for dead arcade games, I have been in many a hot, dark, web-infested, dank, full-o'-critters warehouses. Interesting sometimes what you find in these games - mud dauber nests, huge webs, live spiders, old mouse nests, dead critters, etc. Popbumper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 ---------------- On 1/24/2005 3:38:31 PM ooteedee wrote: 1/4" screening? 1/4" thick? ---------------- What?! No, when you buy screens it is designated by the GAP size in the screen itself. Hence, 1/4" screen has a gap size of 1/4" which is too small between the wires for a mouse to get through. DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooteedee Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 what about bugs? I was thinking window screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtaylor Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I'm not positive but I believe that window screen would make a difference in what you would hear. If you want to try it go ahead, it'd be easy enough to remove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 D-Man is talking about what is called hardware cloth. It is like huge screen with the 1/4 inch spacing. It won't change the sound. Lots of folks use it to make tops for critter cages (mice in aquarium tanks, etc). It won't keep out the ladybugs though. You need something a little smaller for them. You could have the hardware cloth in the back part of the horn (if you crease it it is very stiff) and cover with grill cloth. Marvel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Airplanes? Airplanes! Airplanes !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Window screen might form a comb filter for mids or highs but not for the frequencies in the Las bass bin. Go for it. Keep them critters and airplanes in their place! Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Any thoughts yet as to which crossover setup those critters might prefer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olorin Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 High enough that it Hz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 While refinishing my unfinished K-horns which had no grill cloth or protective screening on the bass bin I noticed what looked like mouse terds. I opened up the speaker and looked for debris but there was none except the terds. I vacummed them out (not very many and that was 40 years of accumallation) and speculated that Mr. Klipsch sprayed some real bad stuff in there to keep them out. I fully expected to see some little beedy eyes starring back at me. Then again maybe they didn't like loud music. There were no chewings, no damage of any kind. Yeah, I know, they were classical mice. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 The effect of millions of gnats hitting a drum head has been described. I'm sure ordinary window screen (metal)will be perfectly okay. Gil DFH on 10E6 Gnats.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooteedee Posted January 25, 2005 Author Share Posted January 25, 2005 It was time to fasten the bass bin back into place yesterday....and I found a roll of black, plastic window screen inmy basement. I stapled one layer over the motorboard opening on the outside of the doghouse. Kind of ugly...staples and all, but it should thrwart a few bugs for awhile. I realised last night I made a mistake in assembly. I glued, clamped and screwed the bass bin backs in place. (Like I have with every joint so far.) I should have screwed but not glued. Easy access to the bin from that side would have been nice in the future. Oh well. Maybe it doesn't matter. Onward.... and upward. Mounting the driver and fastening the bass bin tops and sides are next. Stay tuned for further details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRBILL Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 ---------------- On 1/24/2005 3:38:31 PM ooteedee wrote: 1/4" screening? 1/4" thick? ---------------- Ask for "hardware cloth". DR BILL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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