Colin Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 has anybody added the Blueberry (pre-amp?) with the VRD amp and Al k's crossovers - these all same like theyare made for big ole horns- in what stages? what were the improvements? if you didn't do that change, what chamge would you do? thanks- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 You might want to ask anyone that went to Andy Kubick's gathering last weekend. They all got to hear VRD's, a Peach (not exactly a Blueberry, but very similar), ALK's and Khorns. I am sure they'll all give high praise even though there was some severe stray RF all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 It wasn't stray RF it was a ground loop ! Whenever you have noise lift those 3 wires. Its almost always best to just have one piece of gear with a 3 wire if any at all. I know of another Khorn/ALK/Blueberry owner that will be taking delivery on VRD's very soon. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Landau Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 I never heard the VRD and Blueberry but my experience with the ALK involved a lot of happiness. I was very happy when I got it and was way happier when I sold it (and moved to type A's). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 ---------------- On 2/25/2005 3:32:36 PM NOSValves wrote: I know of another Khorn/ALK/Blueberry owner that will be taking delivery on VRD's very soon. Craig ---------------- WHAT A GUY!!!!!! Craig you're GIVING me a pair of VRDs? I take back all the bad things I ever said about you. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 ---------------- On 2/25/2005 3:32:36 PM NOSValves wrote: It wasn't stray RF it was a ground loop ! Whenever you have noise lift those 3 wires. Its almost always best to just have one piece of gear with a 3 wire if any at all. ---------------- OK sorry, I stand corrected then. Remember, I am a novice at this stuff. But I am still confused. Why do I have the exact same noise, just not nearly as severe as Andy? I am lifted from ground at home. Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 99 times out of a hundred it's a ground loop somewhere. Start digging, you'll find it. Have a look at the panel on the side of the house too. I fixed a bunch of crap at a guys house by loosening and re-tightening the big wire at the 6-ft copper ground rod under the panel. Is you stuff plugged in to more than one outlet? one of the outlets have the hot and neutral reversed? There's a gizmo you can buy in the electrical section at Home Depot that you plug in, it analyzes the circuits for stuff like just mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Yeah, but the noise seems to follow Tom wherever he goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 ---------------- On 2/25/2005 4:22:56 PM 3dzapper wrote: WHAT A GUY!!!!!! Craig you're GIVING me a pair of VRDs? I take back all the bad things I ever said about you. Rick ---------------- Rick, Yup! Under one condition you go outside on your front porch right now and wait until the Fed Ex truck shows up for delivery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 ---------------- On 2/25/2005 6:58:35 PM Piranha wrote: OK, I stand corrected then. But I am confused. Why do I have the exact same noise, just not nearly as severe as Andy? I am lifted from ground at home. Help! ---------------- A mild noise can be Stray RF but what you described to me at Andy's house was almost surely a ground loop. Are we still powering part of the system with a 50" extension cord at home The safest bet is to simple lift all your components from ground this means all Amps, Preamp, and Sounces. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 ---------------- On 2/25/2005 7:58:20 PM NOSValves wrote: ---------------- On 2/25/2005 6:58:35 PM Piranha wrote: OK, I stand corrected then. But I am confused. Why do I have the exact same noise, just not nearly as severe as Andy? I am lifted from ground at home. Help! ---------------- A mild noise can be Stray RF but what you described to me at Andy's house was almost surely a ground loop. Are we still powering part of the system with a 50" extension cord at home The safest bet is to simple lift all your components from ground this means all Amps, Preamp, and Sounces. Craig ---------------- No 50' extension you smart a$$! That was 6 months ago during initial hookup and testing for placement. And for the record, it was a 100' footer. I think that everything is already lifted from ground? I took the ground pin out of my cheapy Monster Cable Power Pro 1000. I give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 ---------------- On 2/25/2005 7:51:39 PM DeanG wrote: Yeah, but the noise seems to follow Tom wherever he goes. ---------------- At least it's not a foul odor like it was 10 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.4knee Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Tom is correct we were treated to a Peach/VRD/ALK'd K-Horn combo. How did it sound - exceptionally smooth and articulate. When the switch to Triode mode was made the detail leapt out. As Andy said earlier I would like to have heard the Stravinsky selection in triode mode. The soundstage was massive every other combo sounded a little smaller by compassion and not quite as smooth. The VTL/Sonic Frontiers was pretty impressive as well but my favorite choice of the day was the Peach/ VRD combo. One thing that is unmistakable to me is the sound of the ALK crossover. As soon as I walked in to Andys I could hear it, there is no mistaking that distinct detailed sound. It was a pleasure to here it on K-Horns. Ive enjoyed it on my La Scalas for several months now. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 I do not own the items and never heard the ALKs. I have heard the BB/VRD/ HORN setup maybe more than a dozen times now. With LaScala, Cornwall, RF-7, Heresy and Chorus II also. The Heresey was just amazing; not much below 50 hz energy but the rest was perfect. Best I ever heard heresey by far. It is just not easy to put into words. So damn pleasant, powerful, and musical with all the speaker combinations. if it fits your budget I cannot imagine any horn owner being disappointed. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbsl Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 What company makes VRD and what's the cost for them? Xman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 http://www.nosvalves.com/index4.htm You will have to contact Craig for pricing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 ---------------- On 2/25/2005 12:52:34 PM Colin wrote: has anybody added the Blueberry (pre-amp?) with the VRD amp and Al k's crossovers - these all same like theyare made for big ole horns- ---------------- Not yet, but give me a few months. In 2 weeks, I should be 2/3 the way there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 A word of advice. Put on a new pair of Depends or Kimbies before you sit down and listen. You still have time to get a mega pack at Costco or Wal-Mart in preparation for the big day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Wooohoooo, I'm soiled already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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