Deang Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 Anyone know the part number for the brackets that attach to the K-77's to get them even with the front of the baffle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted March 25, 2005 Author Share Posted March 25, 2005 Z-bracket, part# 061105 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted March 26, 2005 Share Posted March 26, 2005 You are a wealth of information, Dean. The polite thing would be to thank yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted March 26, 2005 Share Posted March 26, 2005 Dean, I was contacted awhile back by a guy that wanted to sell me 10 of those brackets. I will dig up his email address if you have any trouble getting them. Bob Crites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Bob, do you or anyone have a photo of these brackets in use? I recall someone saying that PWK didnt' think that front mounting make any difference but notice that the CWII's were all surface mounted. I could probably use 10 of those if they're not too expensive, 5 CW, 2 LS, 2 Heresy. Thanks, Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Michael, I don't personally think it makes much difference. I can't see how that the tweeter being on one side of the motor board or the other is very significant. Might have some impact on listening at an angle off center though. I really think that front mounting of horns had more to do with labor saving than anything else. In fact, when I talked last year to a mold maker who claims to make horn molds for Klipsch, he told me that he was working on still another horn design that would "snap in" from the front and be held in place by plastic tabs instead of using screws. Perhaps cut a minute off installation time. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted March 27, 2005 Author Share Posted March 27, 2005 C'mon Bob, I don't think you have to be an audiophile to appreciate the benefits of flush mounted drivers. Diffraction at the horn mouth probably does terrible things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Dean, I just listen to them both ways so many times each day testing rebuilds that I have to say if there is a difference, it is very small. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Michael, If I'm understanding the Z bracket mounting, (and that is possibly misunderstanding) it wouldn't work on the sealed cab of Cornwall or Heresy. I believe it sits in a larger cutout and mounts the K77 flush, but not sealed. In order to flush mount the K77 on a Cornwall or Heresy, the cutout would need to be somewhat enlarged so that that tiny flare would be flush on the face of the motorboard, but the cutout is still to small for the magnet to go through. I've seem some mounted that way, but it requires taking the magnet off and reassembling from the back side. If I can find a pic of this I'll post it. Here's a link to some "Studio Monitors" by North American Sound on Ebay right now. I had a pair of the smaller "Squire" (with 12 inch woofs) years ago. They are absolutely killer and have tweets and mid horns mounted in this way. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5762899705&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Thanks DaddyDee, now I understand. I still can't believe that the diffraction effects of the 3/4" ply arent' that disturbing. So many manufacturers have made such a big deal out of eliminating diffraction at the motor board and grill edges that there must be something to it. I'll look into making the mods on my Corns. But I hate to butcher them up if the diff is negligible. Has anyone measured this in any fashion or just have experience with behind/flush mounting in the same cabinet? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Yeh, I don't know how much difference it makes. Seems like I've heard people say that PWK didn't think it mattered much. However, Klipsch goes to the trouble to have the Z bracket available. I'm not able to upload the flush mounted K77. The pic from the Ebay page is pretty large and the server times out before it's uploaded. Don't have the software on this pc to reduce the size. But it could be seen on the link above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauln Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 DaddyDee is correct - there is free space around the tweeter. The torx nuts on the front go into the frame, mounted from the back. In fact, the mounting is interesting in itself. The four corners of the tweeter mounting have four rubber/teflon/??? cylinders that make an additional contact to the insides of the rectangular hole in the motorboard - one in each corner. To insure isolation? paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauln Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 Try zooming in about 500% - you may the gap. p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyp Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 "...I've seem some mounted that way, but it requires taking the magnet off and reassembling from the back side..." That's what I do. Easy as pie. Wish I'd vertically mounted them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 My son (Invideosulus) removed the magnets and mounted his on the front of his Heresys. He said the audible change was quite noticable to him. Marvel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 Marvel, I remember his post mentioned using a Dremmel tool. Thought that sounded like a good way to take small bites off the baffle opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 "I believe it sits in a larger cutout and mounts the K77 flush, but not sealed. In order to flush mount the K77 on a Cornwall or Heresy, the cutout would need to be somewhat enlarged so that that tiny flare would be flush on the face of the motorboard, but the cutout is still to small for the magnet to go through. " Another job for Moretite caulk. I've mounted the tweeter from the front, removing the magnet to do so. Then you have to modify the grill. The Z-bracket is a better idea, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Please please please, Could someone show me a link or photo of what this looks like. jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Hi jc Hope this worked! Here is the Z-bracket on the K77 in my Khorn mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keta Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 It works!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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