laurenc319 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Hi, I asked myself this question after browsing the Audiogon forms for a while. It just amazes me how much high end stuff comes up for sale after only a few months of use. The discussion forums have 21000 posts to the amplifer, speaker and technical forums and 2445 posts to the music forum. Many of the members there are most likely equipment listeners. Once the question is asked, what criteria do you use to answer it ? For a start What's worth more your CD/SACD/LP collection or your equipment ? How long ago did you buy your last piece of equipment ? How old is your oldest piece of equipment ? Do you read music reviews or equipment reviews ? Do you attend live concerts of any sort or attend Audio shows ? With your friends do you talk about the muisic or the stuff its palyng on ? Please chip in with other thoughts ... I'm a music listener from way back and a relatively new Klipsch fan Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 1--Vinyl / cd's 2--1 week ago 3--33 years, bought new 4--music reviews 5--it's concert nite tonite, by co-incidence 6--most friends can' t even turn my stereo on ... we listen to Music, i mean, that's the point of this stuff, right ..??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 the Audiogon forums ... .......got some real Analphiles...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 What's worth more your CD/SACD/LP collection or your equipment ? My LP collection--by a factor of at least 50, maybe as high as 100 How long ago did you buy your last piece of equipment ? The last major piece was the BAT VK-D5 CD player in 2000 How old is your oldest piece of equipment? My McIntosh MC-30s, which date from about 1957 Do you read music reviews or equipment reviews ? Some--I read Art Dudley every month. Used to read his mag cover to cover, but alas it is no more. I read concert reviews more than album reviews, Do you attend live concerts of any sort or attend Audio shows ? A hear live music on average 6 times per month. I went to CES once with a friend back in the mid-1990s. With your friends do you talk about the muisic or the stuff its playing? The music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I've been forced to recently revamp my complete stereo from the ground up. It took about a year. That said... I'm in it for the music, however a good system is a must. I have thousands in CDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazytubepower Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I would have to say both but biased toward the music 80:20. I enjoy reading the reviews on equipment but also love buying a new vinyl rush home and throw it on the table. I listen to my system about 8 hours everyday, so i am kinda lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev313 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I don't think that anyone would disagree that, ultimately, this is all about the music. As you well know by making your way to this forum, the gear is essential to achieving the best listening experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I listen to music on my equipment.[:^)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 What's worth more your CD/SACD/LP collection or your equipment ? =>Maybe 50-50 How long ago did you buy your last piece of equipment ? => a set of speaker cables and an anolog tuner for my inventory (extras for the kids) How old is your oldest piece of equipment ? =>early 60's Scott amps Do you read music reviews or equipment reviews ? => 50-50; I read 100% of all musci reviews I can get my hands on; usually hate megawatt SS power amp reviews YUCK Do you attend live concerts of any sort or attend Audio shows ? => I prefer unamplified High School bands; hosted a listenign session at my house a year ago; Audio Karma show I go to With your friends do you talk about the muisic or the stuff its palyng on ? =>Both; some music inspires more discussion on music; like Jimmie or Stevie Ray just wailing on a solo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunburnwilly Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Music Baby ! Why else would I bother with this stuff . I like Dukes statement about most of his friends wouldn't even know how to turn his system on . I leave written instructions for friends and family when I'm out of town . So when they come over and feed the cat they can hang out and listen to music and or watch a movie . Only a couple of them can get past the touch screen Sony remote . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 What's worth more your CD/SACD/LP collection or your equipment ? <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> -My equipment, I sell off little used discs to get new artists who I listen to a lot How long ago did you buy your last piece of equipment ? -Decades ago, in high school, with help from Ralph Karsten of Atma-sphere OTL tube amplifiers, bought Fisher tube receiver and Robert Fulton speakers How old is your oldest piece of equipment ? -Oldest is classic Klipsch corner Khorns, oldest owned is Rotel CD player (needed newer DAC) a decade maybe Do you read music reviews or equipment reviews ? -Equipment Do you attend live concerts of any sort or attend Audio shows ? -Love live small ensemble acoustic music, but say CC Adcock (zydeco) recently and loved him and his red double string bass player With your friends do you talk about the music or the stuff its playing on ? -The music but not usually anybody I know; young rockers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiobliss69 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 What's worth more your CD/SACD/LP collection or your equipment? Monetarily speaking, I'd say I paid much more for my system. About $1300 in my system, and then about 80 CDs. No idea what my CDs are worth. Which would I rather part with? Hmm. I'd rather 'lose my system' than 'lose my music.' However, they're both replaceable. How long ago did you buy your last piece of equipment? That would be my speakers, I believe: bought sometime last year (I'm bad with time). How long ago did you buy your last CD/LP/SACD? Sunday!! How old is your oldest piece of equipment? Hmm. My receiver. By a year. Do you read music reviews or equipment reviews? Mostly equipment reviews, and then only when I'm considering my next step. I usually don't read much audio related. Do you attend live concerts of any sort or attend audio shows? I *think* I've been to one concert. However, what's an audio show? With your friends, do you talk about the music or the stuff it's playing on? Whichever I can get them to talk about! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 1. What's worth more your CD/SACD/LP collection or your equipment ? Equipment. LPs next, then CDs. CD player = the most expensive. 2. How long ago did you buy your last piece of equipment ? A year or so ago. Closing in on a different preamp 3. How old is your oldest piece of equipment ? 30 years -- Revox A-77. 20 year-old cassette player. TT and preamp are 10 yrs old. Bought the K-horns over 20 years ago; the AK-4 innards are ~ two years old while the KH itself is 43 yrs. old (1962). 4. Do you read music reviews or equipment reviews ? Music reviews occasionally if the work or performers interest me, music history articles and equipment reviews that interest me. 5. Do you attend live concerts of any sort or attend Audio shows ? Definitely live concerts but not as many as I'd like. A few good concerts at Bethesda's Strathmore Hall, only 2 miles away, a lot more trouble to get to the Kennedy Center or Baltimore halls. No audio shows. 6. With your friends do you talk about the music or the stuff its playing on ? Nearly always the music. Even the few (GaryMD; Thebes once so far) interested in equipment are here mainly or solely for the music unless it's an equipment comparison. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg928gts Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I listen to my equipment by playing CD's of recorded music through it. [H] Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnich Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I dont know if its worth more, but I have spent more on my records/cds/sacds that I have on my equipment. Last purchased equipment, I quess some tubes if that counts. If not it would be the Peach a couple of years ago. Oldest equipment in main sytem are my MC225s which I think are from the early 60's. Plenty more vintage equipment Fisher 400, Dynaco ST70 ,PAS 3, Scott 299D. Tandberg 64 Reel to Reel, Wharfedale W70 speakers and others. I will sometimes buy audiophile mags when traveling and will read both the music and equipment reviews when I do. However I prefer the music reviews in the SF Chronicle, Wall Street Journal, NYTs, People, and whatever the Maxim music magazine over the smarmy audiophile reviews. I try to see live music as often as possible. However it ends up being about once a month. I have never attended an Audio Show. Other than with Chris King from the forum I never talk about equipment unless you count guitars. I have to say however, that I really do like the sound of quality tube wash! Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfyr Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 So, just what is this "music" stuff to which you refer?????[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 So, just what is this "music" stuff to which you refer?????[] It's another word for test signal. Not as good for showing off equipment but it will do in a pinch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmboydoug Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 What's worth more your CD/SACD/LP collection or your equipment ? Music. 300+ LP's and about 100 CD's. Equipment is mostly vintage Nikko bought for a song. How long ago did you buy your last piece of equipment ? 6 months, a 32 band mono eq for $40. How old is your oldest piece of equipment ? Late 70's Gamma V tuner. Do you read music reviews or equipment reviews ? Only here and on AK. Do you attend live concerts of any sort or attend Audio shows ? Whenever someone decent actually comes to Fargo. With your friends do you talk about the muisic or the stuff its palyng on ? Mostly music, but on occasion I get sucked into "Listen to this" mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Once the question is asked, what criteria do you use to answer it? Well I listen to both, but it depends on the situation. For example, you have to be able to hear the equipment in the studio so that you don't end up compromising for flaws in the equipment (which there always are). When listening for fun, again I can choose to listen to both. I find it very fun and entertaining to experience the differences between equipment. At the same time though, I greatly enjoy listening to just the music and getting wrapped up in it...though this is a rare occurance because I am easily distracted (either by flaws with equipment or with interruptions from my surroundings) I don't think it's fair to compare money spent on records versus equipment nor the frequency of purchases...there is very little music out there that I would want to purchase and I'm always on the hunt for new source material. This is why I enjoy my visits to colter's so much....it's a huge library of music I've never heard before or music I've heard, but know nothing about (which makes it hard to purchase). Slowly but surely I'm sure my music collection will expand, but I refuse to purchase something that I won't listen to (I think of Artto who has thousands upon thousands of CDs and LPs, but he listens to a select hundred because all the rest sound like crap on a revealing system). The way I look at it, I'm still on a hunt for the perfect band (nightwish comes close) and while on that hunt I see no problem with trying to get worthy equipment ahead of time. I also never pass up the opportunity to go to a live show, but I would argue that recorded and live music are two totally different approaches (one is aimed towards entertainment whereas the latter is aimed towards art...ignoring pop crap bands of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjohnsonhp Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I think you can like both but you know you are a gear head when you spend little time listening to complete songs and spend most of your time skipping through demo material and listening to audiophile recordings that are designed as system testers. What's worth more your CD/SACD/LP collection or your equipment ? * 2,000 lps, 800 cds is about equal or more to my gear...depends on the price you put on the media. How long ago did you buy your last piece of equipment ? * I made one purchase in 2005 recently -- an upgrade How old is your oldest piece of equipment ? * I used to have early 1960's tube gear, but now I don't have any obsolete products in my main room but several 1970's & 80's items in other rooms. Do you read music reviews or equipment reviews ? * music reviews and occasional equipment reviews in magazines Do you attend live concerts of any sort or attend Audio shows ? * few of both but I listen to concerts at home With your friends do you talk about the muisic or the stuff its palyng on ? * music except for gear forums like these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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