kenratboy Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 Jay: I think a lot of people see RF-7's without the grills - and it looks like a box with three drivers screwed into it - the new ones are a bit more 'stylish' - but I am sure will still perform. I want to see some pictures of the new subwoofers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I'm sorry, I guess I have a big you know what complex with two 10 inchers hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriton Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Same cheesy feet on the towers? These just look like my 7's with an extra woofer (well that is what they are, aren't they?) I was expecting something, well, better looking with a squawk horn, are they just adding the tweeter horn for reputation sake?...Seems to me if you add a sub to your system, the extra woofer is superfluous? I really thought we would see something more along the lines of that "premier" Klipsch product we saw in the european thread, or is it the company is making the stylish more modern looking speakers for europe and foisting the boxy towers on us? Makes you wonder... K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 These aren't just RF7s with an extra woofer, the RF7s have a 1.75 inch tweeter (vs 1.25) and cost less then the the RF83 anyway. This is what you described. Still would love to know what that third woofer does if as I read they are two way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Amy Posted January 5, 2006 Moderators Share Posted January 5, 2006 To end speculation, the new Reference FS are 2-way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capo72 Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 The RF-83 looks like an RF-5 and an RVX-54 had a baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Trey Cannon Posted January 5, 2006 Klipsch Employees Share Posted January 5, 2006 They are all a 2 way ...woofers wired together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Trey Cannon Posted January 5, 2006 Klipsch Employees Share Posted January 5, 2006 The feet look close but are not the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted January 5, 2006 Author Share Posted January 5, 2006 To end the gear head screaming - what can you say about the sound? Do they sound about the same in a better, small package, do they take it to the next level while looking good? I am in love with that new big center [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 time to run to my local dealer and request to buy the rf-7 for 1000 a pair. heh bigger woofers, bigger compression driver, the rf83 are still two ways too... plus if I can get a deal like that (rubs hands in a devilish way!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capo72 Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 time to run to my local dealer and request to buy the rf-7 for 1000 a pair. heh bigger woofers, bigger compression driver, the rf83 are still two ways too... plus if I can get a deal like that (rubs hands in a devilish way!) That's what i'm thinking too! Add 2 or 3 more RF-7's to the mix. I'm gonna have to call my guy to see what he can do. Jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 also I wrote this in another post lets see surface area..... Pi*rsquared rf-7 two 10 inchers pi * 5 (squared) pi* 25 * 2 woofers = 157 square inches rf-83 3 8 inchers pi * 16 * 3 = 150.79 ~ 151 square inches I was corrected on by CAS about that is the area of a circle but since the depth of the cone is not given I cannot give you the surface area of a cone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot125 Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Also very important is the linear travel of the drivers, no? They could have beastly excursion and therefore move more air anyways. All I'm saying is that I think Klipsch knows what they are doing. I anticipate (and fairly I think) that these will outperform RF-7s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 I dunno,I think if I was Klipsch I'd have made a speaker that made the owners of previous models drool.I'm not overly impressed with what I see,maybe they sound great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMcGoo Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 I will not go near 3 or 4 woofers in parallel until I know the minimum impedance of the speaker, nor will I recommend such a purchase until I have reliable numbers for impedance. Eight ohms compatible will not cut it either. The RF-7 is 8 ohms comapatible. Yeah, right. It's a beast to drive impedance wise. High sensitivity is only part of the game. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Belgium Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 A 10inch speaker is to big to produce midrange sound. you will always have a gap between the high and low frequencies. i gues that's the reason why i found the rf7's sound boomy when i auditioned them. Maybe this is why they now build they flagship speaker with 3 x 8 inch speakers as they do midrange frequencies better. It's also so that with smaller bassdrivers you can have cleaner bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Also very important is the linear travel of the drivers, no? They could have beastly excursion and therefore move more air anyways. All I'm saying is that I think Klipsch knows what they are doing. I anticipate (and fairly I think) that these will outperform RF-7s more excurion means bigger enclosure in which the rf-83 are smaller... I wonder what the -3 is, better or worse than the current rf-7??? remember efficency, enclosure size, spl... two out of three but never 3/3 the rf-83 look to be a smaller enclosure as the 8 inch woofers touch the side panels and the rf-7 also do but the rf-7 are 2 inches bigger. the efficency has to be on par with the 102 db per 2.83 volts??? i would assume. so max spl given up? ah well all to preliminary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottscay Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 The RF-83 enclosure looks to be deeper. I assume that geometry must play a role in resonance, so I wouldn't make off-hand assumptions about spl, although with the high efficiency of Klipsch speakers spl won't be a problem as long as they have reduced the impedance of the woofers. My half-baked guess is that they sacrificed a wee bit of bass extension in favor of better midrange and improved highs. The Reference series is usually used with a subwoofer (e.g. in home theater applications) so this would be a good sacrifice for most users. But time will tell. I don't suppose any forum members are at CES and could report back??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Trey Cannon Posted January 6, 2006 Klipsch Employees Share Posted January 6, 2006 Or goal with the new line, (as with all our speakers) is to have the Min Z = 4 ohms or >. The 83's are about 3.7 or so. I hooked the 83 up to a few (low price) receivers. The only one that shut down was an HK and it had a problem that we did not know about at frist. (bad center ch). The Onkyo we got a best buy went all the way up with no problem..(volume: MAX, no more numbers it just said MAX) In a 24 X16 room the max spl was around 115 and the speakers were not even working that hard. THey chould have taken another 100 watts. As for sound: they all sound good, but the mains sound a little different than the current product. The centers and surrounds should match well with current product, BUT I have not had a chance to hear them "mixed" like that. I will ask Steve P what he thinks...He has the 63's and the c-64 at home for beta testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Hey Trey, I live in Terre Haute, and would be thrilled to "Beta Test" your new products for you! :>) ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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