Format Change?

[Trey Cannon]

Some of you have asked for more than one day of fun at the pilgrimage. There has been talk about making Friday night part of the Klipsch events. Say from 5pm -9pm. the first thought was class of some sort. Things such as "understanding audio 101" or "...this is a wire and here are some things you can do with it..." or Something fun and informative. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

We are not for sure that we can do this yet, but if we could, what do you think?

[DrWho]

Sounds interesting. I'm pretty laidback when it comes to such things because I know y'all know how to have a good time.

For what it's worth, a lot of people view the mixer as a way to get face time with people and more of a relaxed fun filled evening listening to music. If we could somehow incorporate an atmosphere that was both social and informative I think you'd have a real winner.

[LarryC]

I would like to have some time next year for a repeat of this year's classical DVD sampling. We squeezed in in as the group sessions were winding down.

Larry

[DrWho]

I think that's a good idea Larry....I love your discussions on classical music. Have you ever considered putting any of it into writing?

I think it might be interesting to contrast the differences between listening to gear and listening to music.

[WMcD]

I suggest that a portion of the program be basic horn theory. There is often mention of a demo where a horn is put in front of a three-inch (or so) driver. Something like that could be done.

Gil

[LarryC]

I think that's a good idea Larry....Have you ever considered putting any of it into writing? No -- too complicated, involved, and, well, frankly, too much work.

I think it might be interesting to contrast the differences between listening to gear and listening to music. Very interesting idea.

[Jay481985]

I would like to have some time next year for a repeat of this year's classical DVD sampling. We squeezed in in as the group sessions were winding down.

Larry

I would like to actually be able to attend the classical sampling the next pilgrimage with some breathing room

[BLSamuel]

Please include Larry's presentation as part of the official program. I wish I would've been able to attend and it would be nice to do so with plenty of breathing room. And the idea of how to listen to music as opposed to audio sounds like a great idea.

An educational session or two would be fine by me, as long as it is kept fun for the Klipsch employees and pilgrims. Basics of loudspeaker horns 101 could be a lot of fun, the demo mentioned earlier would be fun. Reminds me of the team we put a small speaker in a cheerleader magaphone back in high school. Another thought is several Klipsch engineers ultimate statement system - what they'd build for themselves or their favorite Klipsch speaker and why. Another topic could be how different trade-offs is speaker designs affect the sound. Other topics could include subwoofers and in ear headphones. Maybe some discussions on the basic Klipsch principles and the importance of each. Maybe let the instructors decide what they think people would like to know.

I'm sure whatever y'all come up with will be a great time.

[BobRiff]

I would like to hear an A/B comparison between passive and electronic crossovers (same speakers, same listening position, everything else the same).
Just switch between the two different types of crossovers.

Of course, I'd prefer it be done with a pair of Jubes. []

I need to be "convinced" that my Jubes could sound even better with the time delays zeroed out.

[Coytee]

Doubt you could be convinced...

Why don't we do this since.... clearly they're only 'decent' sounding at best. (as per Craig, who's never heard them) I offer you the following...

I'll pay you exactly TWICE what you paid for them and take them off your hands!

It's a GOOD deal for you (trust me...would I lie?) [^o)]

And an "ok" deal for me....[:^)]

I'm willing to do it because I respect you.

[A]

[colterphoto1]

I would like to have some time next year for a repeat of this year's classical DVD sampling. We squeezed in in as the group sessions were winding down.

Larry

I would like to actually be able to attend the classical sampling the next pilgrimage with some breathing room

Perhaps this might be best left to an after hours event hosted by an Indy individual....

[BobRiff]

Doubt you could be convinced...

Why don't we do this since.... clearly they're only 'decent' sounding at best. (as per Craig, who's never heard them) I offer you the following...

I'll pay you exactly TWICE what you paid for them and take them off your hands!

It's a GOOD deal for you (trust me...would I lie?) [^o)]

And an "ok" deal for me....[:^)]

I'm willing to do it because I respect you.

[A]

Oh, i trust you...and that sure sounds like a great deal alright.

Alas, I promised Trey he would have dibs on them if I ever sell them.

Guess I'd better just hang on to them so no one's feelings get hurt. []

[IndyKlipschFan]

sorry dp

[IndyKlipschFan]

Maybe a industrial set up with a great DVD movie!! ????

5.1- 7.1 sound?

Who knows at that point, and you can't please everyone as well.

That said, the open air might be really cool? This could be done Saturday night too?

I like the idea of a classrom idea friday night, just not too late so you can allow for some socialising too. Say 7- 9 pm?

[Bill H.]

I suggest that Friday evening be the Larry C class on classical Music..........we could do it in the Hotel, where there would be more seating available, and a bigger room..............the time part to me would work out great..........say 6-9p.m.

[DrWho]

An outdoor classical concert in the parking lot with surround sound would be really cool - and should sound amazing too. It'd also be an excuse to pull out some of the pro cinema stuff.

I also think it would be fun to play around with some of the mods always being suggested on the forums. I think most of it is crossover related, but we can play around with other tweaks too (like the ported lascala?). It'd also be a good opportunity to throw in active crossovers and demonstrate the improvements of time-alignment.

[Trey Cannon]

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OK, so far from what I hear, you like the class idea on Fri. as long as it is not all night. (I was thinking 5-9pm)

On Sat. outdoor movie/music reproducer (not live) system. Remember this requires some chance / planning with the weather.

Please remember, we can not make everyone happy and do everything. But please keep the suggestions coming. We hope to be fun and informative.

[LarryC]

OK, so far from what I hear, you like the class idea on Fri. as long as it is not all night. (I was thinking 5-9pm) <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

On Sat. outdoor movie/music reproducer (not live) system. Remember this requires some chance / planning with the weather.

This idea doesn't sound good to me. [EDIT: I obviously misread -- you didn't intend classical to go outdoors. Apologies!] Classical music takes good, clear, full-range sound, and outdoor setups just don't have it as a rule. It's not like pop or jazz where you can be familiar with a performance and your mind's ear fills in the deficiencies. Last year's session was played over Cornwalls and I couldn't have asked for better.

I'd prefer having a larger room with a DVD player (and someone to operate it) and a good system to play them on, preferably Cornwalls or K-horns. Could we please debate this a little further?

Larry

[LarryC]

Or better yet -- since it's important for any upscale speaker to sound great on classical music, how about equipping the session with a pair of Palladium 39's??

[DrWho]

outdoor setups just don't have it as a rule.

Not to be argumentative, but I think that is a common misconception

that is simply not true. Do you have any specific situations in mind

that might have led to those conclusions? I guess I would "argue" that

one can achieve amazing sound outdoors, but it's gotta be done right.

Heck, it's gotta be done right for indoors too; the criteria are just

different.

I was just thinking that it'd be a shame to do the classical music stuff

inside the hotel meeting rooms because the acoustics simply suck. I

would find it most distracting. But hey, maybe that's a good argument

for doing some temporary acoustical treatment in those rooms...I think

that would make an interesting learning tool too. There are two rooms

that are nearly identical with a dividing wall that we could have

partially open with the same speakers playing the same music on both

sides so that people can walk back and forth to see hear the

difference. I don't exactly agree with Auralex's methodology, but

perhaps they wouldn't mind taking an active role.