fenderbender Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 The bose do have their applications though....There really is no APEX center of the soundstage...you can walk around the room with little discernible difference in sound quality......The Aplication that GLA was useing them for was to kinda fill in the holes .....I think the 901's would be great if you had alot of people at a party , or I would even try them as surrounds in an HT application.................Anyway MY Heresies are anything but "mere".[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Not knocking anything of yours bender, but heresies are well, heresies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderbender Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 This is true.... Tell you what though.if you tweek them just right they are impressive for what they are..................Just about got my wife buttered up enough to sneek in some Klipschorns!!!....No really honey the Cornwalls just grew a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTLongo Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I've held back from this string because Bose-bashing (with some justification) is de rigeur for many folks here. But what the heck. As perhaps one of the very few if not the only one using BOTH Klipschorns (2003 models) and Bose 901 Series VI's, I think I know whereof I speak. No, I haven'r A/B'd them directly with each other in the same room. And yes, the Klipschorns at high volume will blow away the 901's with the Khorns' effortless high clarity. BUT, at anywhere up to moderately high volumes the 901's hold their own. They are quite easily listenable, with an honest bass down to around 40hz or so. They are light years beyond (better) than the micro-cube plus (non)-subwoofer Acoustimass-type modules Bose overprices yet hypermarkets so successfully. The 901 VI's are, indeed, a good stereo pair of speakers, and are still in production at some $1400 per pair. Plus, I have had my pair of 901's since 1988, and they look and sound as good as new. No cone rot, etc. They are durable beasts, as compared to a pair of classic Large Advents I hAve whose woofer surrounds totally rotted and the woofers had to be replaced. The 901's are in a back-up computer bedroom office I use when my main computer in the larger Klipschorn living room goes down or I am backing up files on the other machine. So, I don't listen now to the 901's terribly often, but when I do, I still smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 "So, I don't listen now to the 901's terribly often, but when I do, I still smile." I like how you phrased that. They struck me on an emotional rather than intellectual level, too. The Klipschorns do that as well, as do our Lowthers, so for me I'm not sure I look at this in the sense of one being universally better than the other. They are different, and all three can sound awesome. I've not heard the 901s in our own house though, and that might be a completely different story. However, that would be an application problem, not necessarily an example of inferior speaker design. Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 My wife had a pair of original 901s when we got married. These speakers were no match in any way to my Khorns. We put the Bose in another room, set up exactly as prescribed in the manual. I could not stand to be in that room when the 901s were on. The sound from these boxes can only be described as a crime against sound reproduction. The early reflections off the walls smeared the transient attack and caused comb filtering which created a wierd sort of "phaseyness" to the sound. Around that time these Bose were popular sellers, mostly to people unfamiliar with truly good sound. Many were installed in bars and restaurants in our area. We would go into a restaurant and a short time after we arrived I would start to feel uncomfortable for no apparent reason. Then I would look up and see the reason... right there on the speakers ... BOSE. I had an open bet that I could be blindfolded, led into a room with 901s and other speakers present, and identify when the 901s were switched on. I never lost a bet. People would just be raving about these audio atrocities, so I would invite them over. I would play the music of their choice, first on the Khorns, then on the Bose. I dare say that during that time I was responsible, due to these demos, for more Klipsch sales than the dealers in the area were. The direct/reflecting design of the 901 is fundamentally flawed. and making the enclosures of plastic and using a vented alignment won't help a bit. When I hear one of these pieces of **** today I still experience a strong feeling of something not being right, of something being very wrong. Tests run by PWK and others have shown very high levels of distortion and lowered intelligibility compared to most other designs. Of course, I am spoiled. Listening to Khorns for 40 years tends do that to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Great! enjoy your Klipschorns. I have K-horns, too, and there are people who have expressed about them essentially what you have referred to with regard to the 901s. Just no accounting for personal taste, I suppose. Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtximages Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 im glad i posted this thread because its very entertaining because so many of my friends believe the commercials and agree that bose is really the premier loudspeaker. I mean they have to be great because they heard a Cadilac with a bose system one time and were surprised... by something, idk what. anyway for those who are mad that I posted this on the klipsch website, you really didnt have to read it or post on it, and it is directly related to Klipsch. The purpose is not to bash bose, as fun as it can be, rather the thread is intended to compare and discuss a common "misconception" or "flat wrongness" that Klipsch owners GENERALLY believe to be true regarding the hype around bose speakers. I dont really like to bose bash, i like to talk about actual comparisons and thats what I wanted to do here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderbender Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 I too am glad for this thread and a great forum on which to discuss topics such as this.........In my teen years I remember thinking that the 901's were the apex of hifi...and so did my peers. My favorite uncle had a pair and I still get very nostalgic about them..........many flavors to life, the kentucky derby wouldn't be much fun if only one horse was running. Set up properly I still think the 901's fill a niche and can be very enjoyable.........I prefer the klipsch sound.in most cases......but hey , i also like a nice pickled tongue on rye ....... Just my cup of tea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Cain Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 I agree; he best thing is to A~B whatever you have questions about. A friend owns a music store and went into partnership with someone to produce small PA speakers. Played them for me. They got real loud. So I brought him an HI to compare with. While his speaker seemed to sound OK when auditioned, it sounded like pure crap when A~B'ed with the HI. Currently, there is a Bose PA system that is all the rage with some local DJ's. These are the same folks who think mp3 files sound as good as vinyl. Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderbender Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 I agree; he best thing is to A~B whatever you have questions about. A friend owns a music store and went into partnership with someone to produce small PA speakers. Played them for me. They got real loud. So I brought him an HI to compare with. While his speaker seemed to sound OK when auditioned, it sounded like pure crap when A~B'ed with the HI. Currently, there is a Bose PA system that is all the rage with some local DJ's. These are the same folks who think mp3 files sound as good as vinyl. Nuff said. Well Anyone who says "SOMBODY SCREAMMMMMM" 30 times during a song must know what they are talking about [][][][][] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Cain Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Well Anyone who says "SOMBODY SCREAMMMMMM" 30 times during a song must know what they are talking about You're funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Well.... in any event, I boxed up the 901's, put them on eBay for what I had in them, hit the "sell" button, and they sold before I could pour a cup of coffee and return to the computer. I guess someone out there is happy. It was interesting though. I was able to listen to a pair of 1968's and a pair of 2008's, and compare them to Klipschorns, Cornwalls,Heresy's, LaScala's, Forte's, garage boombox.... All said and done? In the IMHO department: For ~$1400 a pair, I can think of much better ways to spend that kind of money, as in a pair of H-III's and don't need an EQ unit. But, then again, I think that for their size, they would be great in a college dorm room (suspended from the ceiling away from students partying...), small bar, nightclub, restaurant, etc where you need a small "footprint" and the ability to just crank up the sound to weird levels if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtximages Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 hahahahahahhahaha this is very true. well put. of course i think ive been known to scream that a few times when sitting on the couch in front of my cornwalls or la scalas! that was out of adrenaline, not out of coolness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtximages Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hey what is HI? im sitting here trying to figure out what that means... Heritage something??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderbender Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I believe that refers to Heresy I's.....but I've been known to be wrong, just ask my wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Cain Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hey what is HI? im sitting here trying to figure out what that means... Heritage something??? Heresy Industrial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderbender Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hey what is HI? im sitting here trying to figure out what that means... Heritage something??? Heresy Industrial. See....my wife is right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 I was discussing the Heresy-I (type 1), and I should have been more clear. Industrials are more often called HIP's... Sorry for any confusion, loss of sleep, ED issues, etc....[:|] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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