Zen Traveler

It depends what you are holding out for. If it's the RF-7's wait until you find a pair at the price you can afford. Anything else would, IMHO, be comparable to the RF-3's in the Klipsch line. I use to have those as mains and enjoyed them very much--Now they are excellent side surrounds.

I don't know if this adds anything to the discussion but I have 2 subs: RSW-12 in front sitting along the side wall between my front and side surrounds, facing into the room--RSW-15 behind me along the back wall under my rear surrounds. I set the crossover in the receiver (60 Hz for music & 80 Hz for music). I don't hear anything bad--It's all good {BTW I can't put either sub anywhere else--long story but that is why I have 2 subs}

Tommyboy, You are going about it in the right way. When I was younger I purchased a lot of expensive gear all at once--ended up selling it within two years and still paying for it for 10 years. Valuable lesson learned and the credit card company is the one that benefited. As I stated above, the Synergy system I bought was the first system I could AFFORD and I enjoyed it a lot. Now my younger brother is enjoying it.

---------------- On 4/24/2005 6:34:52 PM Scudd wrote: I need a new reciever and can't deside between the Hk and Denon. I like the video conversion on the Denon, but I think there wattage ratings maybe bogus. I can purchase the Denon for around 1k locally or the HK from OneCall for 750 or so. I need some opions on these two. They will be hooked up to 4.5's for fronts, CLF7 center, KG1 rears and a SVS sub. Thanks ---------------- I don't know why you think the Denon's watt ratings are suspect, but I own the Denon 3805 and I can attest it will have enough power to drive your speakers. HK also has a good reputation on this forum. If you can buy locally that is what I would do.

---------------- On 4/24/2005 10:28:16 PM jacksonbart wrote: ... So it was the Led Zepplin Fan who missed out as she is not the current Mrs America. My memories of hearing Zeppelin are a little more favorible if foggy. ---------------- You are correct sir. The current (and last) "Mrs. America," is considerably younger and can't stand Led Zeppelin--That is why she is downstairs in her own HT watching some chic flick.

---------------- On 4/24/2005 10:14:24 PM Klewless wrote: Over the years, I have noticed that anything Klipsch have never been cheap. BUT they have ALWAYS been good (to my ears)! ---------------- I agree. My first Synergy KSB 3.1's were the last speakers I was ever going to buy...They still sound good. For under $200 check out the new synergy series at Best Buy-- I agree with Erukian.

Robert Plant & Jimmy Page's "No Quarter UNLEDDED.

I have always heard critics of Klipsch speakers say they sound "bright." Well, I never was a big fan of Led Zeppelin because they always sounded "bright" to me. It also may have something to do with memories of when I was 18 years old, and the girl I was trying to date was a Zep fan, and kept playing "Kashmir," over and over again while I had a major tooth ache. With that being said, I can recommend Jimmy Page & Robert Plant's DVD, "No Quarter, Unledded." This sounds EXCELLENT on my Klipsch speakers--The only brightness apparent was the talent of these individuals. The picture quality is very good and the surround sound is fabulous. It was filmed in several places including Morocco. There may have been quite a bit of studio work along with the concert footage but a very interesting piece of art. It's remixed in 5.1, and definitely had all of my 7 speakers cranking (not to mention the RSW's). There is both old and new material. My favorites are "Thank you," "City don't cry" and "The Battle of Evermore." The rendition of Kashmir has erased all of the bad memories and is actually quite pleasant.

Heideana, Welcome to the forum. Yes, I have. My front RF-7's and RSW-12 are raised 3 inches off the floor--My side surround RF-3's are raised 10 inches (to get the tweeters even with the RF-7's) and they sound excellent!

I have been following this thread and down loaded the various articles that dragon has been nice enough to post. As stated above in my previous post, my HT is pretty much the ONLY way it can be setup in my (room) situation. I saw this article and tried to work backwards (again, not using any math;-) I was trying to understand WHY having such an obnoxious shaped space, I was still getting tremendously beautiful sound. I am curious about the benefits of baffles and in fact may have inadvertently lucked (although I prefer in thinking that I painstakingly designed) into having a semi-baffle situation without really knowing it. I sit almost 9 1/2 ft from my left & right front channels (and my rears as well in a 7.1 set up) Both front speakers leading edge are budded up against obstacles and form an immediate corner with the front of the speaker. On the left a fireplace (not in use) and the right with a bookcase. It is a small room with a high A-frame ceiling in front-and a small alcove of a room behind me with a low slanted ceiling. I will try and post a diagram soon. I have basically a 9.2 set up with the equipment in my signature line. I can't imagine it sounding any better.

Welcome to the forum wjohn HK has a good reputation on this forum. I am partial to Denon receivers. If the dealer you are buying your speakers from has the Denon 2805 (3805 if you can swing it) I would consider that one also. He (or she) should be able to give you a "package," discount. Good luck on your purchase.

When I first bought my Synergy Home Theater I was so impressed that I made the statement that I was never going to have to upgrade my speakers again! Well, That was 6 1/2 years ago and you can tell by my signature line that something happened to change that sentiment. My brother has that synergy system (with the same Yamaha receiver) and I still am impressed with how good that system sounds with comparative products at twice the cost that are on the market today. Hats off to Mr. Paul and all of the folks at Klipsch.

I think the concept of Home Theater is a tremendous development for us to appreciate art in the 21st century. I was fortunate enough to see the Van Gogh-Gauguin exhibit in Amsterdam several years back. The colors were AMAZING. I remember standing in front of "Wheat field with Crows," thinking that a person REALLY couldn't appreciate this actual painting without standing in front of it. I then saw the HD special of the exhibit when it came to New York. Freaking Incredible! The High Definition camera was able to not only capture the texture of the paint--It actually was able to blow up a one inch portion of the painting to fill up the 65 inches on my TV with utmost clarity. I couldn't get that close standing in front of that tremendous piece of art. I also think that Progressive scan and DVD technology have come a long way for art aficionados to experience movies and concerts in the comfort of their (our) own homes. I have zero desire to go out to a movie or concert. Unfortunately most people who spend alot of money on upgrading to a new TV have limited funds for a new sound system. They end up getting something less expensive, but still comparatively better than the 2 speakers they had on their old TV's and are still satisfied. I agree with kenratboy, Mr. McGoo, and colterphoto1 (except I still prefer my denon;-) that we "Klipschters," are on the leading edge of this Home Theater Revolution!

I won't venture a guess, but I think one of your dogs knows, and is in disbelief

I have posted on several threads about the luck I have had with my RS-3's WDST. They are in my bedroom, on the side walls near the corners of a square room. They are at the head of the bed so we can watch movies and have GREAT surround sound, while laying down. When I am up doing stuff at the other end of the room I am usually listening to DVD-A/SACD's and one of the horns on each speaker points to the listening position and has great clarity of sound--No "spray" to my ears. My RS-7's sit directly on top of my RF-3's in my main theater and are used as side surrounds WITH the RF-3's on movies and sound INCREDIBLE (my Denon allows me to use both). However, for music in this room I use only the RF-3 towers as surrounds.

---------------- On 4/20/2005 1:59:10 AM ofir wrote: ...Does it mean that this center speaker has a shielding defect or is it the TV (Loewe 3981) that is very sensative to magnetic force. Regards, Ofir. ---------------- Again, I preface this with saying that I am no expert, but I think your center speaker may have a shielding defect. I would contact Klipsch customer service and ask them. 2.8 ft is a considerable distance and IMHO shouldn't be effecting your TV. My RC-7 sits directly on top of my TV with no problems.

dragonfyr, Thanks for posting all of this technical stuff. I am downloading and printing trying to get a grasp of what is important in my situation. Unfortunately I am not a very technical person when it comes to numbers, but I try my best at trying to understand the concepts without doing the math I read the "Brief History of Time," 3 times slowly, still didn't understand it -- Watched the video countless times, barely understood it--got the CD ROM, learned just enough to convince myself that I got the concept and felt comfortable with my spiritual beliefs. I absolutely love my Home Theater and can't really change things too drastically because of space limitations--I hope I don't start to understand the literature downloaded and find out what I've been enjoying sounds like crap. Please post when a video or CD ROM is available in case the written word doesn't sink in.

---------------- On 4/19/2005 11:18:12 AM rplace wrote: Basements are typically dark. Any reason not to consider a projector and fixed screen set up. Seems a lot more theater-like in my mind. ---------------- This also would be my additional thought.

Welcome to the forum. It sounds like you are going to have a real nice Home Theater. Since you are going to do it right I would audition the Yamaha against the comparable Denon. There may not be a difference in the newer models, but I switched to Denon 2 years ago and I worked my way backwards. I got the Denon 4802 R for my main viewing area 2 years ago and was completely impressed. I then started moving my various Yamaha's to different setups and kept feeling the need to replace them with Denons.YMMV. Denon also allows you to hook up 2 sets of side surround speakers in addition to your rears. I like this feature a lot--especially if you plan on listening to High-Rez music. I see that you are using in-ceiling surrounds so this may not be a benefit to you, unless you wish to hook up 2 sets of side surrounds. I listen to a lot of DVD-A/SACD's and I own 2 Denon dvd players. The Denon DVD-2910 is a good player for both 5.1 music and DVI/HDMI video output. I also own a Yamaha DVD 5 disk changer which is great and I can tell no difference between picture quality through component (480p) compared to the higher priced Denon DVD-3910. If you are going to hook your dvd player through a DVI connection, It would be worth the money IMO. Griffinater may be right about the Mitsubishi DLP. I have a samsung 46 inch DLP which has a great picture--But I much prefer watching movies on my 65 in. Mitsubishi RP Diamond. It is an older model and if it had a DVI connection (which I think the new 73 inch has) I wouldn't feel the need to upgrade--heck mine doesn't and I still don't feel the need to upgrade. Good luck and enjoy after all of the hassles

---------------- On 4/19/2005 1:08:57 AM ofirco wrote: Hi, Well, after following the vendor's recommendations, I found out that the purple shades did not vanished completly. I've tried also to move the front speakers completely away from the TV set and then turn the TV on again BUT there wasn't any change. Could it be the Center speaker? or is it possible that the TV already (I have it for only 1 month) got demaged because of the speakers? --Ofir. ---------------- I don't think it's your speakers. I also don't think you could have damaged your TV set, even if it was your speakers. Where is your center channel in relation to your TV? If it's close and is the culprit -- when you move it your problem should clear up immediately, if it's a shielding problem. All of your speakers you mentioned are shielded. Do you have a subwoofer close to the TV? It sounds like more of a convergence problem with your TV set and has nothing to do with your speakers. I am not an expert in this field and if someone thinks differently please let Ofirco know.

---------------- On 4/18/2005 8:09:36 PM thejez wrote: i just measured and 1.75 feet from the cieling puts me 3.5 feet from head level - so i might come down a little more to about 2-2.5 ft above head level. --------------- That sounds like it could be the plan

I have RF-3 towers I use as surrounds and they are fantastic! I raised them approximately 10 in. off the ground so the tweeters are at ear level and the same height as the RF-7's. I like them more than the RS-7's which I have as "B" surrounds. Good luck. {Then you can also use your RC-35 as a rear center channel--If your receiver allows}

If you are going to be standing while enjoying your system, and can get them AT LEAST 1.75 ft. from the ceiling, that is also a consideration IMO. {edit: You don't want it too close to the ceiling. As long as you are not that close (1.75 ft)--Higher is better than lower insofar as surround speakers go}

---------------- On 4/18/2005 6:53:07 PM PYRO wrote: Is that Linkin Park DVD any good? How about that Playboy on your A/V stand? ---------------- LMAO College!!!! {edit: tdahle636 Welcome to the forum }

Welcome to the forum. I would mount them slightly above seated head level and would pay more attention to the "1.75 ft. from the ceiling."