Paducah Home Theater

If you want rear speakers and you're right up on the wall, you don't have much other choice. Only problem with doing this is with the Klipsch units sometimes you can get weird effects. You can be sitting on one side of the couch and if there is a rear sound effect, due to being in direct line of fire from the tweeter on the opposite side yet under the one behind you, the effect can seem like it's coming from the other side of the room, it's kind of weird. Dolby actually recommends direct radiating monopoles behind you but like I said, if you have no room, you don't have much choice. Bookshelves stick out quite a bit and are awkward to mount on the wall in this situation. In-walls could work. 502S is about the cleanest looking install and is often done like you are talking about, but yeah it comes with its own set of problems in this particular situation.

I've actually seen people build shelves above the towers to place these things on. Short of selling the towers and getting bigger ones, I'm not sure what else you could do. Those really need to be higher than the height of the 4000F anyway so although I'm sure a shelf seems ghetto, it would probably be better than just sitting them on top even if they did fit.

Easily the most popular choice for Atmos. However you can get the 5650's if you want to save a few bucks, they do about the same thing, not much difference for Atmos. The back boxes aren't really necessary all the time. Really needs to be new construction before using them at all. They are for false ceilings in a commercial environment which is required to have these for fireproofing. Typically not required in a residential area unless local codes dictate that for some reason. Really the only thing it's really good for is keeping the back wave from emanating throughout the house, like if you have a bedroom above the theater room, maybe consider it. However, burying the speaker in insulation or using "can light" type of covers can do about the same thing for cheaper.

Unfortunately, or at least unfortunate enough that I'm mentioning this on a Klipsch forum, but this is one of those situations where the SVS elevations are actually a better solution, you can get them shipped with optional ceiling mounts. Maybe consider some of those.

It's a good preamp, but, the P6 is significantly better, especially the DAC situation, but also with the looks. The new P6 gets rid of the big bright red annoying logo light if nothing else. If those two things aren't an issue then go for it.

There's no right or wrong answer especially not knowing what speakers you have. Just try it different ways. Technically the standard is 80 hz. Some people lower it to 60 hz while some people run the fronts full range. I will say that having your surround back 10 hz lower than your side surrounds is an interesting choice, that's not really normal.

It could still work well enough, better than having nothing at least. Chris A here on the forum has cited research showing that people actually prefer surrounds a little more forward but that was a year or two ago when I read that so I can't remember details. Of course it looks like you will have a horn firing right into the side of that fireplace though, and if so, that's going to be a big issue. I'd consider trying some monopole bookshelves on stands if this is the case, pull them forward enough to clear the fireplace. Run temporary wire over the carpet to test if you are unsure if it's worth the effort.

You've got three lines of speakers just in these first three mentions. I'd at least try to match the towers and center. It will work well enough otherwise but the finish will look better plus the timbre will match better, that 404C will likely sound more laid back and smoother than the 625FA's. I'd say to consider bumping up to the RP-8060FA if possible but I realize it's a big price hike. Normal towers plus in-ceilings may be worth considering if you have access to do so, like you own your own place and are not renting and you can get to the attic space.

making a ticket is your best bet if you haven't done that already. support.klipschgroupinc.com

If you mean are they discontinued at this point, yeah pretty much. If you are referring to the museum donation of the last pair made that I mentioned above, I was just trying to help them raise money, I don't expect them to go on display at the museum or anything.

There shouldn't be any publicly viewable price reductions on standard Cornwall III's, minimum advertised pricing did not change in other words.

A few notes on this. 1. You can't really buy this type of stuff directly from Klipsch anymore. Used to they had the Kibo / Shopatron portal which farmed out orders to local dealers, so it looked like you were buying directly from Klipsch although that wasn't really the whole story. That doesn't really exist anymore though, they are trying to funnel traffic to local dealers and let customers order directly from them. 2. In regards to the old Cornwall III's is that Klipsch mostly doesn't have any more, to be honest I bought most of the remaining stock, I'm sitting on like 50 of them. Basically if you ask a place about them and they don't have any in stock but say they can order them, that's not really reality. There's like six cherry left and that's it, both walnut and black are gone. 3. If you or anybody else were interested in a one of a kind set of Cornwall III's in walnut, I donated the very last set that were made at the factory to the museum, everybody at the factory signed them, just kind of an end of an era thing. 100% of the sale price goes to support the Klpsch museum, I don't get a dime nor do I collect the payment. They are available to ship pretty much immediately.

By all means, support your local Heritage dealer. Otherwise though, unless you're dealing with them in person, it's not like the level of pre-sale guidance and post-sale support diminishes with distance.

https://www.klipsch.com/b-stock-warranty

Factory blemishes, sometimes there's a few more knots than what is ideal, finish issues, things like that. This particular pair has some faint swirls on top probably from sanding, I'm assuming that's the deal with them.

By all means, find a deal and post it here, we'll make them famous. Basically if we get caught discounting them we lose the ability to sell that speaker. Get caught twice and we lose the whole line. Dealers can't even buy them anymore unless they're a certified Heritage dealer yet normal dealers are still openly quoting them at a discount, I've seen it myself. I'm sure you'll find somebody else who can't read eventually. AL5's were actually $10,000 full retail earlier this year, there may be a clause or grace period for ones that were bought to stock before they went to 12. Otherwise you shouldn't be seeing this.

AL5's are now on universal pricing, all new ones are $12,000, shouldn't be anybody offering to sell any less, even in private. I do have some factory B-stock though, that's about the only way to get a deal.

They are kind of shipping at the end of the month. Only problem is that it's kind of limited and a few extremely large retail dealers ordering insane numbers are getting first chance. So, not everybody is going to have them right when they start shipping. I ordered several but I'll be lucky to be anywhere close to the front of the line. Just be patient, they're coming.

the 280f is almost identical to the 8000f, as far as I am aware most of the parts are identical, the woofers are for sure. about the only real difference acoustically speaking is that the tweeter is vented on the 8000f which is supposed to smooth out the overlap area where the crossover point is. otherwise it's mostly cosmetic. Any significant and noticeable differences when a/b'ing them would probably be due to break-in time, room layout, equipment, or whatever.

23. immediately around the house is 8.

There's pros and cons. The pro ones actually aren't supposed to be sold retail, especially not shipped to a customer who contacted you online, so I can't even get them, as they know I'll ship them to people. They sound good and are voiced a little better, less bright up top, but you also lose the ability to pivot the woofer and tweeter which often comes in handy for Atmos. Flipping the tweeter attenuation switch on the CDT's is the next best thing, plus they're easier to get for most people, and you retain the ability to pivot them.

The most popular ones are the CDT-5800-C-II. The CDT-5650-C-II does almost the same thing especially for Atmos and saves some bucks. The reference II like these are a little brighter than the new ref premier stuff but there is a tweeter attenuation switch that you can flip that helps quite a bit at least in my opinion.

I don't agree with this, most all speaker cloth looks like it will rip if you look at it funny. The new Reference Premier is actually tougher than a lot of them. RF-7III, but if you need upfiring Atmos or downfiring elevations, you still gotta get the RP-500SA.

60 db max out of the sound bar? That's not even the level of a normal conversation. If that's accurate I'd contact your dealer or at least call 800-klipsch and talk to the tech support guys.

Don't get Reference Premier if you have a starting budget like that and can add more later. At least get RF-7III, those are the most popular speaker I carry. Heritage is cool but in my opinion it doesn't make a lot of sense to build a home theater system around two Heritage speakers if you plan to use Reference surrounds. The only other feasible choice in my opinion is a pro system, maybe KI-396-SMA-II. Of course there's 904's and Jubilees as well. Did I read it right in that there is only one long wall that is clean? That room size would be nice if you could put the speakers on a short wall and build a false wall for a projector screen but it sounds like you can't.