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Ever since I was abducted by aliens I will will distort television pictures and open garage doors my my mere presence. Are you in the St. Louis area? Are you that voice in my head telling me over and again 'buy Bose, buy Bose...'? I thought I recognized you. GET OUT OF MY HEAD!! Otherwise you'll find your car starting by itself and all your ceiling fans running in the wrong direction.

Tom has it right folks. These are great to see back and it is a very good sound. Between these and larger heritage stuff it is a real preference issue - quite honestly they are very similar. In today's sound engineered with the greater LF extension, few (IMO none)full range speakers will get a satisfactory LF extension. I wouldn't knock that spec at all - I would plan on assisting LF in most situations regardless of the speaker brand and type.

oops - wrong place - I was looking for a group to blow me, as the main page subject line said....

Motorola KSN 1038 is a very good reasonably priced unit. All fall short of horns, but i have used this unit in a couple of projects and it is good enough for my first born to use...

As best I can remember your questions: Yep - Cornwall grille seems modified to no detriment though (although I could be wrong here since everything else looks fine). As to mods - both sets are wonderful speakers with no modifications. Listen longer and see if you can solve some of your issues through placement - that has been my successful tact over the years - a tone disk and SPL meter will help here and fairly cheap for something that should last a near lifetime. There will be plenty of folks that will offer mods if you can't help yourself . Take care on refinishing - this is veneer and the skin is thin. Patience is a real virtue - be sure you carefully layer any sanding process (with a veneer you may find a stain has penetrated through out). As to other hardware - someone else needs to help here. Lots of power is no issue if it is clean power - nothing says you have to turn it all the way up. Geesh - Klipsch in the santuary may get me back in Church for the first time in a good while...You passion is great to see. Fits this board well.

Been there Avman - I have had trusty companions for years - 18 year old Irish setter, 12 year old Irish Setter and most recently a 14 year old unknown origin mutt this past winter - that have had their time with us. Each time there is a seemingly irreparable gap from the loss. After reading your post I sat in the den wrapped up with my 11 year old Brittany - he fell asleep with his head on my stomach. He much appreciated the impromtu show of affection...

Not been to the BMW board often lately. I still futz with the car - latest was finishing the strut trilogy with a body brace. Do you have any other Klipschs? You may find you want to augment the bass on the LaScala - although many find no need. As to a center - I have built a few speakers recently including a center to work with my all around heresy. Since the most critical timbre match (to my ears) is the mid and high Freqs you can get the matching drivers and horns, use the hf Xovers and only modify Xover for a woofer (or two) that gets close to the LaScala lows (this is a assuming a sub is in the mix). While a bit of a compromise it brings in that clear detail and you can get it together in a smaller package. If you go with another pair - someone here will grab your remaining speaker. Cheers and good to hear you typing again. Is that hot rod 1.9 still in the garage?

Gotta ask - SFOGG Are you the same Shawn Fogg from the BMW Z3 message board with the 'fogged' CAI? IF so - glad to see your passion in music as well...

Going to best match another JBL driver. I found my ear has more difficulty distinguishing timbre differences on the woofers than on the high freqs.

My first - Altec Stonehenge III around 1976. Sold to my cousin in 1979. Couldn't complain, just had a Klipsch urge...

Has the sound of reason, but a Bass Reflex Cornwall should negate that need to some degree. I find that the best way to enhance bass on the Heresy is some form of corner placement - something I have found true on most speakers.

I became an addict in 1968 (or there abouts) when I listened to the Beatles 'Rubber Soul' on my little stand stereo. I knew it had to sound better and the search was on. Oh the shame to have to admit to this addiction... So, who else hoards electronics in the storage recesses and tells the significant other you sold the stuff to cover that you really can't do this audio thing casually?

Ok - sorry to ask this, I know it has been written about before, but I cannot find in a search. How did the Heresy get its name? Klipschorns are self descriptive, Belle for a person, LaScala for a building, etc. I am at a loss on Heresy and Cornwalls and can't recall previous answers. In my college days (way back) I was told the Heresys were named according to the dictionary (something along the lines of contrary to conventional wisdom) - that is to say that you COULD make a high efficiency bookshelf speaker (this was at a time when the nice horns were the size of a reasonable closet). Fact or Fiction? As to Cornwalls I have no clue... Anyone that can help?

I built my own center with two mid woofs coupled with all heresy otherwise and got the better of two worlds - good music, good HT (the two woofs off-axis are great). For my world, the timbre match of the HF (above 700hz) is the real reason for my project. I had tried several set ups and the best (before my DIY) was a dual Heresy center (matches two other pair of heresy)- it just took up way too much room. My second best was a single heresy. My config offers a broader sweet spot on HT than the single heresy. Determine your parameters for compromise (after all that is what generally happens) and see what tickles your fancy best.

Many here have heritage mixed use HT/Music setups, with the Khorns being the ultimate Heritage. The simple answer is that most will tell you wonderful stories about the sound. I personally think the the efficiency and detail for 600hz and up make the heritage especially nice for HT if you match with a quality subwoofer. When you timbre/efficiency match the mid and high freqs on 5 to 7 channels you are in for a treat. Most who visit my mixed use room that is full of Heresys walk away very impressed - that includes good friends that have more expensive cone and stat setups. These are folks that are hyper critical and blunt. They are not just being kind (however, I have lent the SPL meter and a couple of test discs and helped them get their own systems sounding much better - just shows that proper setup goes a long way on any good system).

Tough one Rick - I am not an attorney but I have had folks working for me in 30 of our states and can tell you that the overtime issues are generally regulated by the state. I believe there is a baseline federal regulatory issue and the states add on top of that. That said - in some cases mandatory overtime is allowed (generally with a wholesale consent of the employee that it will happen), but I am unsure which states do not allow the practice. A couple of for instances - Some states may (I believe LA is one of those) set a mandatory overtime pay as something different than the standard 40 hours a week (I believe LA is 52 hours). Other states (CA is one of those, of course) go so far as to require overtime for certain 'non-hourly' paid employees. A local employment attorney would be your best bet here.

For my modified Heresy center I did use the good doctor's MTM design (in an off handed way) - the primary consideration being the spacing of the woofers (my set up is really WT/MW) to deliver a cleaner sound with a less focused sweet spot. I did experiment with a few baffle designs and could hear the difference when I stayed near the D'Appolito calculations. Earth shattering - no, better for my application - yes. I tend to agree that the better made arrays sound better than the MTM. But I also found the peculiarities of arrays and Xovers kept me out of that type of speaker build. Most of my trusted sources talked of lots of experimentation - 5, 6 and 7 design changes - this was beyond my patience. If a new worshop ever happens I may give it a go...

Here is my version (sans grille) using H I Type E Xover, K77 tweeter, K55 Squawker and Fostex 168 sigma woofs - I mix HI and HII in my HT and these are an excellent match for my front HIIs. Good luck and as said before - ask questions. We love to try and help and to see your end product. PMs work very well also.

Scotth - check your PM - I have a couple if you are still interested.

Tough question. Go to Madisound.com forum for lots of advice on your chosen speakers. You have a small delimma on crossovers for the identical mid woofers. I haven't looked closely, but you may need some SPL help on your LF - generally the HF drivers are more efficient. That would make one think that a parrallel configuration would help - and tune the two woofs to your prefered LF. This is also an easier Xover. Several of my preferred box building software - Unibox, WINISD and Boxplot are all nice and cheap (free in some cases) and can help. Search through google to find them. Good Luck.

btw - My lovely wife and I are in our 28th year of marriage. Soon to be empty nested and back to playing again...

Many great options here in various price ranges, but yes - the use of a good sub with Heresy is very nice indeed. The mid range will remain a bit shallow on the Xover freq, but otherwise you get a fantastic upgrade feel to your loudspeakers. The good choices on subs (that I have heard) include SVS tubes, HSU tubes, HSU VTF3 (VTF2 if you aren't terribly concerned with extension nor have a really large room), Sunfire and Velodyne's HGS line. I found (for my ears) the best price performance was SVS and the worst was Sunfire (sound is great just a tad pricey) - regardless all should work very well with Heresy.

Ok MD I'll try to help here. 1. Bass below 60hz (conservative - it is probably closer to 80hz) is generally non directional. Therefore most speaker manufacturers don't dig down for that extension on their full range speakers due to uniqueness assosiated with such long waves. They will focus on a separate subwoofer and working hard on the directional frequencies (say 60hz to 16Khz - some folks can hear fairly well above that, but not many) in their stereo speakers. There is even a train of thought that the resonance from the really low freqs tend to make a box kind of goofy and hard to design the full range integration. 2. Somewhere around 25 hz it becomes difficult to hear the LF - you can feel it, but it isn't as easy to hear. Other than the infamous pipe organs for music, most of this is happening in HT stuff. And it does really make some of the movies have extraordinary sound effects. 3. The Bass you appear to like is the over emphasized 100 - 150 hz that folks here see a lot of younger folks craving. It is a coloration that most music lovers dislike because there is nothing like it in nature or in good music compositions (including Rap and HipHop). To us your arguments are disingenous. Many here know that Yamaha has very little (if any) comparative value to Klipsch reference lines. I am not chastising - just trying to bluntly assess what is happening. 4. There are several maunfacturers that make reasonably priced speakers that in each of their ways do a good job in the 50 - 16K range and if you are interested, really shop around. If the boom of the 100-150hz (and little regard is given to the mids and highs) is important - the range of acceptable speaker manufacturers grows. I caution spending much money on these speakers - you should give your ears a chance to learn what they like before you start spending bunches of money. A match to higher end electronics is also less of a financial burden with these type of speakers. Your ears make the difference and don't let us be your judge. You probably need to ask your question elsewhere based on your current sound preferences - Klipsch is particularly liked for their efficiency and clarity in that 40 - 16K range with limited variartions on any one freq range. They are a bit forward and their detail remains surprising. Good luck in your search.

Unfortunately, our beloved heritage do not get near the 20hz LF extension nor the 20Khz HF in the 3db criteria. However, what they do from 35-50hz (depending on your model choices) and 16Khz is what the addicted are attracted to. As to components for Hi-Fi - I really can't speak to the Klipsch stuff, other than you would need to go elsewhere for non power peripherals (TT, SACD, DVD, CD, etc.)

I think the heritage centers already exist - use an exact match heritage speaker. Malcolm is looking at doing what several have done here - size a center to match the physical asthetics of your home entertainment area. I did the same - you try to match the original specs to get a near match for your center. With some diligence you can manage the compromises to please your preferences. Trey - I tend to agree with you. The speakers as designed are pretty darn good with consistent results. To each his own when mucking with the original. A more esoteric venture would be to take the strengths of several (say Altec, Klipsch and Edgarhorns) and diddle with making a sound that is in some way unique and pleasing to your ear. Just remember - in doing so you will invariably spend more money than for a pure version of either manufacturer. In the end you will probably end up with a sound that is mostly only differentiated greatly by your own ear and is rarely worth the cost (in real dollars as well as time) to others. And this comes from a tinker person. Admitting your addiction is the first step...