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Hey guys, i was wondering what your experiences are with listening distance/positioning. offcourse it depends on the size of your room. my listening position with my UG jubs at the moment is 260 cm from the front side of the 402. so dat means about 305cm from the driver (inside of horn) distance between the jubs is also 260 cm. i have them set up about 50 cm away from the back and side wall, so no corner placement. (my subs, THTLP are tucked in the corners) i sit on the couch 320 to 250 cm away to the front wall, and 400cm away from the back wall. I have not yet started with decorating the room so there is still room for ajustement. Let me know what you guys prefer and why.

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Thanks i`ll look in to it,

they look kind of stupid with the horns lowered i do have to admit. but my mancave is not my living room so i dont really care. but damn i love the looks of the Herritage Jubilee. 😍

Does anyone has an opinion or listening reference of the lowered 402 horn with driver at listening/ear hight (i guess Craig and i are not the onlyones to have them lowered) vs the high and straight forward driver on the Herriitage jubilee. If lowering the driver would be such an emprovement... than one would say that klipsch/roy would keep that in mind when designing the jubilees. I have to say that i cant really remember how they sounded before we lowered them. i am only just starting to get used to the sound of my jubs. During spring and summer i hardly listen to them because i`m a lot outside in my garden. so now the listening fun starts again.. especially since it is raining for 3 wks in a row allready.

that is a 3hr drive .. i live next to the coast near Hoek van Holland and Delft. for our american friends that offcourse is very, very close.

I know the feeling LOL. i was told i had the only 3way system ever sold in europe. but i found it hard to believe, and Klipsch has no records as far as i know. having said that, i am kind of convinced that i am the only owner of a pair of UG jubilees (2way/3way) in the Netherlands. so now we can form a european association with 2 members 😎🤣

Yes Craig did measuring after the lowering and adapted the time delay.

with Cologne you mean Koln?

I dont have experience with te HF200. The funny thing is.. i bought my Jubs with original k69 drivers. at that time i did`nt knew that there were people upgrading their jubilees with different drivers. total newbie. about a year later i bought a beautifull pair of Cornscala type D with 510 horns (with mumps) and the Faital HF20AT drivers, also 16ohm btw. they were a project from a dutch forum member (dont know if he is still active here). xovers were from Crites but the cornscalas lacked every form of magic. I had a pair of new xovers made by Werner Jagusch (mast_mutter on Ebay), the same guy who build the 3way xovers that came with my jubes when i bought them. this was an improvement. later i got to chat with Craig from Houston TX on the forum (Born2rock) and what a coiincidence.. he was using this exact same drivers on his 2way jubilees. (5 of them in one room .. legend). He told me this would make a significant upgrade over the K69 driver so with a little help from Craig via Messenger i swapped the drivers between the Cornscalas and the jubes. (and turned my jubes into 2way). i also took the 510 horns with mumps out of the CS and swapped them for my 510s (tweeter section of the 3way jubilee) so if i ever want to go 3way with the jubes i have the new version of the 510 horns waiting in storage. Funny thing is that the Cornscalas sounded better with the K69 driver than with the Faital. Maybe had to do with the pairing with the xovers.. dont know. Anyway the Cornscalas are now sold to a new happy owner and i kept the Faital drivers. I am still reading about upgrading to the new Herritage Jubilee drivers, i foud a whole article from Chris on DIYaudio about this upgrade, but i`m not sure yet. I added a picture of the 3way passive xovers that came with my jubilees, i still own them but i think they are better for lets say a Khorn or some other beautiful project. If anybody is interested in them feel free to send me a message. But when Craig did the REW magic and dialed the Xilica in there was no going back. all of a sudden the jubes came to life. Last picture you see Craig (Who was in NL at the time) dialing the jubes in with the THTLP subs upside down in the corners behind them. I also lowered the horns so the driver height is at ear position. on Craigs advise.

Are there Herritage Jubilee owners who still crave for a sub? or is it more for the LS etc.

You could also go for a Faital HF20AT

That can be arranged too

You know i have a pair of UG in the netherlands? if you want to compare one day just send me a message. (even in het Engels voordat ze denken dat we codetaal spreken)

I have 3way jubs but i turned them in to 2way as advised by most of the forum members. I never heard the 3way fully dialed in since i was on my own at that time and did not have the know how about DSP and REW. So i used them whith a 3way passive xover from Werner Jagush and also with a DSP with the factory settings from klipsch. but all the magic was missing offcourse due to the lack of REW and tuning. By the time that Craig came over to do the REW/Xilica magic i allready turned them into 2way. offcourse i kept all the parts and stored them. so i can turn them back into 3way anytime. but i have to say that at this moment they sound magical and the soundstage is bigger than big so i dont see any reason to do that. and the upside is that they are a bit smaller (lower) now (not that size is a problem in my room). if i could name one thing i like the least (or love a little less) about my current setup it would be the lack of real deep bass which by now i tackled by installing the THTLP subs and sometimes i miss a little agression in the form of bass punch from the jube LF bins. they dont move much air. everybody says the bass is the big difference with the Herritage jubes (no subs needed etc.) so i am very curious on that issue) but i do have to say that my room is quite big, has a very high ceiling and i also have not done anything about soundproofing yet so i m not sure how good my acoustics are at the moment. But Craig told me they sound awesome and come close to his system (which is a fully tuned sound proofed room) sorry for my bad english. speaking is always easyer than typing.

Hi guys i have been away from the forum for a while. Wow what an interresting thread. I have installed my Jubs in 2way, with Faital HF20AT drivers on the 402`s. installed 2 Tuba Home Theatre Low Profile subs i bought from forum member Wim in Belgium. then, Craig came over from Houston TX to The Netherlands last december and tuned the whole system. For the HF section i stept away from tubes to give a First Watt J2 a try. (Craig uses the same amp and i found one for sale in NL) so i bought it and do not regret it. for the LF and SUBs i use 4 Crown K2 amps. i run these as monoblocks in the bridged mode. preamp is a Mcintosh MC220 and my source for now is an Cambrigde CXN V2 streamer on which i use Qobuz. now offcourse i am very curious to the sound of the herritage Jubilee and i can audition at two shops whitin 1.5/2 hours driving. i have not been listening yet, on purpose because i first wanted to get used to the sound of my own setup. i dont think i will ever buy a herritage pair since i love my system and they are installed in "the chruch" which is my mancave. offcourse i prefer the looks of the Herritage but it is not my living room so i wont pay an extra 30k for looks. i will give them a listen some day in the near future and share my opinion. and offcourse i will follow this thread since i am very curious in the tunability to bring the performance (if the difference is big) close(r) to the performance of the undergroud jubilee. is Chris still active on this forum btw? i send him a message a couple of months ago but he did not reply, and also i dont see his name pop up in this thread. usually he is/was the beacon of knowledge in this kind of discussions.

if i want yo buy tickets i have to fill in an USA adress, is it right that the drawing is olny for USA citizens?

Thanks man. i just startet to decorate the place. The goal is to make it all `20s pub/lounge style with wall paneling etc.

The 60 is a monster also... anyone got experience with the 60 vs the THT (LP) ? Like i said, i can buy a pair of THT LP froms a forum member nearby. I think i will just buy them and see how it goes. That is also a nice way to meet a forum member. i initialy bought some QSC PLX amps but the seller cancelled the sale at the last moment unfortionatly. so now i bought two Crown Macrotech 24x6 amps, Macro-Tech 24x6 Channel 1 (2400): 875 watts into 2 ohms. 745 watts into 4 ohms. 510 watts into 8 ohms. Channel 2 (600): 375 watts into 2 ohms. 335 watts into 4 ohms. 230 watts into 8 ohms. The idea is to use one amp for each side, so one amp will power both a Jubilee LF cabinet and a THT sub. i think this will work out great, but please correct me if i got it wrong. I will receive them today. Maybe they are a little overkill for rhe THT`s but hey... no such thing as too much right?

I would put them vertical in the corners. (Jubs are about 25" out off the back and side Walls)

I have my eye on a pair of THT LP`s with 15"s drivers. I think i`ll just have to give it a go. The nice thing is, i can pack them in wallpaper, the same print i will use on the walls. and put them in the corners. this would really be a low profile. I am just curious in how much of an improvement it will be.

thanks man. very helpfull.

orrrrr... the THTLP (never heard of them untill today)

just asked a question in the subwoofer section regarding the Jubilees https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/168744-sub-for-jubilee-klipschorn/&do=findComment&comment=2706573

Hi guys! any thoughts on the Electro Voice MTL2 (1 or even 2) to acompany the Jubilees? i have an alternative.. that is a set of folded bass horns with 15" drivers. but they are kind of bulky and almost twice the price of a pair of the EV`s (here is a link to the folded horns ad https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/audio-tv-en-foto/luidsprekers/m1787243538-bashoorns?_gl=1*gaclko*_ga*MTIwODg0OTExOS4xNjM3MDA5MjY5*_ga_GYS69R7SLQ*MTY0MjU4NDkwNC4yNi4xLjE2NDI1ODc3OTIuMA.. ) i could fit them in my room, next to the jubilees against the side walls of the room. but i am not convinced that this is way better than the EV`s. i know the EV`s are PA subs. but they have a very good reputation. my use is most for music and music videos. i will use them for HT also but i am not all about HT like some of you. allso.. for now the system will stay a stereo +sub system. there are so many opinions... nice to have some help here. i will pick up 2 amps this week: QSC PLX 1802 for the LF cabinets of the Jubs QSC PLX2402 for the subfwoofer(s) All the best, Sjoerd.