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I agree, usually black and oak. I had 4 of these, and an sw-12 back in the day and the amps go bad... so, I used to pull the amp and patch the whole and use them as passive subs. They sounded decent. However, for a little bit more money and a little patience, you can get an RSW-15 that will blow it away.

Hey, I'm not affiliated with the sale, just thought it was amusing the prices people are asking for vintage gear....If anyone wants an overpriced 25yo SW-15 sub, there's one in the Chicago land area. I think he's quite a bit overpriced. https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/ele/d/villa-park-klipsch-subwoofer-sw15/7209416764.html I had a bunch of these back in the day... the amps go bad on these a lot!!!

Great link. I'm going to use this as a current events article for my students to read. My 6th grade classes have are working through their rocketry module and this ties in perfectly!

Thanks. This was my trial speaker set for a new stain color. I think I like it more than I thought I originally would. I'm debating doing my KLF-20's in this stain.

It's also a "B stock" speaker, so it may have blemishes. (However, most of these are very minimal) Now, if only you could find another one to match! There were some floating around on Craigslist in the Chicago area, but I just checked and they all sold. Good luck with your search.

You apply it to the back of the horn (The plastic part). I had pictures from when I did it, but it didn't really make a difference, so I deleted them. I was going to share a "how to" lesson on here, but I felt it was pointless. I'm sure if you search for horn modifications or "horn damping" something will come up. Klipsch made the horns thin, I'm sure to keep costs down. So, people like to add material on the back side thinking it will help. I just pulled this picture from the web, it's not what I did, but it shows the location you could put whatever material you want to use. I hope this helps.

The "squawker" refers to the midrange horn. I used very thick foam tape. (You can also use a tube of silicone as well) I did this on several speakers, including my KLF-20 and CF-3's (I had 2 sets of CF's, so I could do a side by side comparison...one with and one without) It makes absolutely no audible difference when you are listening. The only difference is that it sounds less hollow when you tap your fingers or knuckles on the horn. I know a lot of people say that they can hear a difference, and maybe they can. But, most likely it's the placebo effect. These are the same people that swear that bi-wiring(unless your using 22 gauge wire in the first place), expensive fancy isolation spikes on your equipment, unnecessarily huge power cables and pucks to keep your speaker cables of the floor actually makes an audible difference as well. As far as the speakers go, I agree with Preston Tom, if it ain't broke...don't fix it. If you want to add some corner bracing with some Loctite PL 3X, that never hurts. But to take everything completely apart is a waste of your time. I don't know if they added front to back bracing between the 12" woofers...if not, this might help. I know I did it to my KLF-20's because that seemed like a week point. I don't know why Klipsch wouldn't have done this in the first place... other than to save a few bucks. I hope this helps. Good luck! p.s. KLF-30's for surrounds? Is your room the size of a stadium?

Try adding another subwoofer. (I know Costco had the matching R-12SW's on sale for around $200). Or, since the R-12SW's aren't really anything to brag about performance wise, sell your sub and buy a better quality one... you can usually find decent used ones in the $500-700 price range. Most of the time, depending on how you have your system set-up, anything below 80hz is sent to the subwoofers. So, getting larger main speakers will not give you as much noticeable difference as adding a good subwoofer... or two! I had my pair of RF-83's as my front speakers in my home theater... and they were overkill. I switched them out with a pair of RF-3's (Same woofers as the RF-5's you're considering) and didn't notice anything lacking. Then, I moved the RF-83's to my 2.2 system for just music were they are much better suited to shine! I hope this gives you some options to consider.

I saw that, but Ciare doesn't seem to have the 10" version of the HW321 everyone is talking about. The 2 models I listed above are the closest thing.

Hello all, Has anyone tried to use the RF-7 II/III woofers($145 Part#1064791)in their KLF-20's? If so, results/thoughts? Also, has anyone tried the Ciare HW 250 ($100) Perhaps with sealing up the ports? or the Ciare HW 251N? ($130) Just curious as I may be looking to upgrade the drivers in the future. p.s. I know some of you will flip out and say you have to have the exact thiele/small parameters, but please resist the urge to vomit all over this post. Thanks.

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Maybe they thought their god couldn't hear their prayers? So, to use a Spinal Tap reference, they tried to turn it up to 11!!!

I would just duct tape the mids and tweets right to either side of the drivers seat headrest facing forward and call it a day! (Maybe throw in some expanda-foam as well, just to fill in the gaps!)

Frank, Thank you for the kind words. I hope you are enjoying the speakers! I strive to describe my speakers exactly how they are. I don't like surprises when it comes to buying speakers. It bums me out when I look at a set and they are nothing like what a seller said they would be! -John

Refinished cabinets in a beautiful modern gray. The cabinets are in outstanding condition. The tweeters and drivers are in excellent condition. The passive radiator has some small crinkles on the dust cap, and as you know this doesn't effect the sound one bit. The grills and badges are in excellent shape as well. Front to back bracing added between the passive and 8" driver. New dust caps added on the 8" drivers. You will be hard pressed to find a nicer pair. Located in the western burbs of Chicago. (60511) I'm asking $300. Garage audition available. (No shipping unless you arrange everything and some person shows up at my door and hands me cash and takes the speakers away!)

I recently did a full refurbish on a pair of CF-3's. They started out black, ended up much better! However, one off the woofers needed the dustcap re-glued. (The famous Klipsch buzz) It was a lot of work, and I'm glad I did it, but would I do another one? Hell no! Not unless I replaced all 4 woofers, but at that point, you're spending over $500 and that would be better spend towards better speakers that aren't decades old and difficult to finds parts! Nope, maybe closer to $500-600. I had all of the parts( tweeters,horns, 4 woofers and crossovers) listed for $750 a while back and not one hit. I pulled everything and re-glued the center-cap. I decided to see if it would make sense to part it out and put better drivers in the cabinet, but that seemed like too much work at the time, so, I refinished the cabinets and loaded them back up! I ended up selling the pair for $750. (Perfect cabinets and badges, very good grills, extra bracing, sound dampening and all stock drivers...still only $750.

They sure do! I took a chance and bought 4 of the 18TBX100's almost 10 years ago before B&C became well know. I actually bought 4 of them for $500 off of a guy who ran a pro sound company... he bought a bunch of extras thinking he would go through them, but the ones he loaded his cabinets with never blew! So, he was getting rid of some of the overhead. Bonus! (As these go for $300 each!) I used 2 of the speakers to build my DJ subs, powered with a crown Comtech 1600 (800 watts per channel) Wow! I was impressed. (much better than the EV DL18mt subs I usually used) I planned to use the other 2 remaining 18's to make a total of 4 DJ subs, but there was no need! I actually foolishly ended up selling the other 2 when I found out we were having a kid and needed to make room. I should have kept them for a future home audio sub project... however, I still have 2 18" ultimax subs for that, but, I know the B&C's would have walked circles around the Dayton Ultimax drivers.

Here's an example: For sale, great set of vintage, hard to find, super rare bookshelf speakers. I'm the second owner. Sound great. Excellent condition, like new. The only reason I'm selling is because the neighbors in the trailer park complain about the massive amount of bass exuding from these babies. Enough SPL's to make your ears cry for mercy! I've done some upgrades/modifications, they are better than new! I'm asking $5,000. Located in the Southwest burbs of Chicago. Pick up only, no shipping (I don't want UPS to drop them!)

What tipped it off for you that this guy isn't serious? The great idea of ruining a decent pair of speakers by putting the mids and tweets haphazardly into a grocery mobile (I'm sure duct tape would most definitely be involved!)...or perhaps his stellar mastery of the English language? GRAMMAR The difference between knowing your sh#t and knowing you're sh#t!

I'm hoping you sold these by now, but I came across this listing while looking for a set of rf-62's...

Here are come replacement woofers: https://offerup.com/item/detail/887573806/ Those were my drivers, but they are sold! It's getting more difficult to find those original drivers(rf-3/rf-5/rc-7/rf-35/rf-82, etc) I bought a set of rf-3's a little bit back and they had 2 damaged cones, so, I thought I would replace all 4 because I didn't want to wait forever for 2 of the original style ones, so I bought new ones ($69 ea.) from here.... https://www.simplyspeakers.com/klipsch-replacement-speaker-woofer-1011974.html Unfortunately, like everything else right now, they are out of stock. But, if they do come back, they are great. (They are genuine klipsch speakers, still made in china of course, but the name is molded into the frames) They have different dust-caps, thus why I bought 4 so that they would all match. I attached my pics so you can see the difference in appearance... I hope this helps.

Excellent condition. $15 Plastic cases included. Local pickup preferred. (Will ship for an extra $15 and I'll cover paypal fees)

That may have been a pair of my drivers. I bought a set of RF-3's and 2 of the 4 drivers were dented/creased. (Same drivers as the RC-7) So, I bought 4 new drivers, and listed the 2 good drivers on here a little while back. (I still have the 2 creased ones.... would make a great driver set for a DIY garage speaker for someone... or perhaps a set of compact subs for a bandpass box so you wouldn't notice the slightly jacked-up cones!) Here's the link to where I bought the replacements... $69 each + shipping. However, they are currently out of stock... go figure. https://www.simplyspeakers.com/klipsch-replacement-speaker-woofer-1011974.html New vs. Old drivers. They sound identical, however, I'm sure there are some minute measurable differences that people would love to argue over...

Then I cracked the top tube of my frame.... and I was bummed.... until I found out that Jamis has a one time replacement warranty on their frames. Woo Hoo! So, this is my current frame/bike for the last bunch-o-years!

My first mountain bike was a GT that I had back in college( 90's) I destroyed that when I started getting airborne for more than a little curb hop. Then, I bought a trek 4900.... I replaced just about every part on that bike before retiring it to just an easy trail riding bike. Then, I built up a Jamis Komodo Frame (pictured).... that could actually handle what I was trying to do!