a MARANTZ CLASSIC PM-6 for 150 bux: what do you say

[quadklipsh]

guys im mouth watering at this classic gear at a friends place . he is asking 12000 rupees.

but i cant buy it without having to know if they work better than great with klipsch .

my previous marantz have been rather beautiful with klipsch , so far ,and i never regretted keeping em.

i just wanna know if someone has owned the ESOTERICs and played em with klipsch .

[LarryC]

What's a Marantz PM-6?

[quadklipsh]

larry didnt you google the marantz pm-6 .....man .....thats lousy

[quadklipsh]

im sorry larryc,i didnt mean rudeness.

heres my i find ....

[quadklipsh]

what do you think . shudnt it sound suuuuuueeeeeeet???

[quadklipsh]

heres what it should be like with pants off

[quadklipsh]

oh and yes , btw , the elder brother is the MARANTZY ESOTEC -PM 8

[Rick]

While I am not familiar with that model, I must say it is gorgeous and I would love the opportunity to try it, especially for $150...

Is it fully operational?

[LarryC]

larry didnt you google the marantz pm-6 .....man .....thats lousy

It didn't show up on Google. Neither did any connection with Esoteric, and I'd never heard of any connection between the two.

[Danzo]

Esotec pm-6, google says it can run A or AB

[dtel]

I would try it for $150 if it's working.

Marantz PM-6

150,000yen

Description

The Integrated Amplifier which adopted the design of separate

amplifier SC-6 and SM-6.

Pure Class-A 30W+30W by the stream composition

of whole page perfect push pull DC. Freshness is high and switching distortion

etc. is the power which is not generated theoretically.

moreover, even a

switchpoint comes out and a modification is also possible to AB class 120 W/ch.

Since the difference of the sound by change is contracted, the high speed high

fT transistor which fully attained wide band-ization for cut-off frequency with

90MHz is adopted as the power stage. Switching distortion called weak point of

AB class was suppressed to the relative minimum, and it is delicate and, and

yet, is finished in powerful AB class amplifier.

The control amplifier

part also serves as a Low-TIM design with the power amplifier part, and a

nakedness property is improved by the material selected carefully and the

proficient circuitry. The amount of NF was reduced and the distortion on Hearing

impression was banished.

A power-source part is filled up with the newly

developed 22,000-micro F super audio capacitor and a special resin, and the

compact transformer which took heat-resistant measures is adopted as it.

Furthermore, the heat pipe with high effectiveness was carried in the

heat-dissipation organization, and the high exothermic at the time of a pure

Class-A operation is cooled in it.

In order to raise the quality of a

disk play, the straight DC switchpoint to which phone amplifier is direct

connected to the power stage is equipped.

For this reason, the transistor

which also attains to channel 13 stone of one side is used for the

Low-noise-izing of each block, a raise in an S/N ratio, and MC head amplifier

handling a detailed signal, and it polishes even on the level which is fully

worthy also as a single article.

Moreover, a phone input switchpoint is

equipped with the cartridge loading selector of 27kohm, 47kohm, and 100kohm, and

any cartridges are supported.

The design of a right-and-left

independency is adopted as a tone control circuit. Moreover, 2 point variable

type is adopted as a loudness circuitry, and two kinds, +8dB and +4dB, can be

chosen as it in 100Hz.

Speaker change-over-switch loading in which a

simultaneous play and a change are possible.

Subsonic-Filter adoption

which cuts unnecessary super-low-pass one.

Mutual dubbing circuitry

loading by the two decks.

Rating of a mode

Form

Stereo Integrated Amplifier

Output power

(20Hz - 20kHz, both channel

simultaneous drive)

120W+120W (8 ohms, AB class)

30W+30W (8

ohms, pure Class-A)

THD

0.015% or less (at the time of an effective

output 20Hz - 20kHz, an 8-ohm load intensity)

Cross modulation distortion

0.015% or less (at 60Hz:7kHz=4:1, the time

of an effective output 8ohms)

Frequency characteristic

+ 0, -0.2dB (20Hz - 20kHz)

5Hz - 100kHz

(+0, -2dB)

Dumping factor

100 (an 8-ohm load intensity, 1kHz) or more

Input sensitivity/impedance

Main-amplifier input: 1.5V/100kohm

phono1 man-month: 2.2mV / 27kohm, 47kohm, 100kohm

phono2 man-month:

2.2mV / 47kohm

phono2 MC: 200 microvolts/75 ohms

TAPE, TUNER,

AUX:150mV/40kohm

An Output power/impedance

PRE OUT: 1.5V/220 ohm

TAPE OUT:

150mV/600 ohms

RIAA deflection

±0.2dB (20Hz - 20kHz)

Tone control property

±8dB (low-pass 100Hz)

±8dB (high region

10kHz)

S/N ratio (IHF-A)

phono MM:86dB

phono MC:68dB

TAPE,

TUNER, AUX: 110dB

Phone maximum permissible input

MM:220mV(1kHz)

MC:20mV(1kHz)

Power consumption

Electrical Appliance and Material Control

Law: 350W

Power source

100V, 50/60Hz

Dimensions

Width 416x height 146x depth of 332mm

Weight

15.5kg

[Rick]

I would try it for $150 if it's working.

Marantz PM-6

150,000yen

Description The Integrated Amplifier which adopted the design of separate amplifier SC-6 and SM-6. Pure Class-A 30W+30W by the stream composition of whole page perfect push pull DC. Freshness is high and switching distortion etc. is the power which is not generated theoretically. moreover, even a switchpoint comes out and a modification is also possible to AB class 120 W/ch. Since the difference of the sound by change is contracted, the high speed high fT transistor which fully attained wide band-ization for cut-off frequency with 90MHz is adopted as the power stage. Switching distortion called weak point of AB class was suppressed to the relative minimum, and it is delicate and, and yet, is finished in powerful AB class amplifier. The control amplifier part also serves as a Low-TIM design with the power amplifier part, and a nakedness property is improved by the material selected carefully and the proficient circuitry. The amount of NF was reduced and the distortion on Hearing impression was banished. A power-source part is filled up with the newly developed 22,000-micro F super audio capacitor and a special resin, and the compact transformer which took heat-resistant measures is adopted as it. Furthermore, the heat pipe with high effectiveness was carried in the heat-dissipation organization, and the high exothermic at the time of a pure Class-A operation is cooled in it. In order to raise the quality of a disk play, the straight DC switchpoint to which phone amplifier is direct connected to the power stage is equipped. For this reason, the transistor which also attains to channel 13 stone of one side is used for the Low-noise-izing of each block, a raise in an S/N ratio, and MC head amplifier handling a detailed signal, and it polishes even on the level which is fully worthy also as a single article. Moreover, a phone input switchpoint is equipped with the cartridge loading selector of 27kohm, 47kohm, and 100kohm, and any cartridges are supported. The design of a right-and-left independency is adopted as a tone control circuit. Moreover, 2 point variable type is adopted as a loudness circuitry, and two kinds, +8dB and +4dB, can be chosen as it in 100Hz. Speaker change-over-switch loading in which a simultaneous play and a change are possible. Subsonic-Filter adoption which cuts unnecessary super-low-pass one. Mutual dubbing circuitry loading by the two decks.

Rating of a mode Form Stereo Integrated Amplifier Output power (20Hz - 20kHz, both channel simultaneous drive) 120W+120W (8 ohms, AB class) 30W+30W (8 ohms, pure Class-A) THD 0.015% or less (at the time of an effective output 20Hz - 20kHz, an 8-ohm load intensity) Cross modulation distortion 0.015% or less (at 60Hz:7kHz=4:1, the time of an effective output 8ohms) Frequency characteristic + 0, -0.2dB (20Hz - 20kHz) 5Hz - 100kHz (+0, -2dB) Dumping factor 100 (an 8-ohm load intensity, 1kHz) or more Input sensitivity/impedance Main-amplifier input: 1.5V/100kohm phono1 man-month: 2.2mV / 27kohm, 47kohm, 100kohm phono2 man-month: 2.2mV / 47kohm phono2 MC: 200 microvolts/75 ohms TAPE, TUNER, AUX:150mV/40kohm An Output power/impedance PRE OUT: 1.5V/220 ohm TAPE OUT: 150mV/600 ohms RIAA deflection ±0.2dB (20Hz - 20kHz) Tone control property ±8dB (low-pass 100Hz) ±8dB (high region 10kHz) S/N ratio (IHF-A) phono MM:86dB phono MC:68dB TAPE, TUNER, AUX: 110dB Phone maximum permissible input MM:220mV(1kHz) MC:20mV(1kHz) Power consumption Electrical Appliance and Material Control Law: 350W Power source 100V, 50/60Hz Dimensions Width 416x height 146x depth of 332mm Weight 15.5kg

Oh yeah, I'd love to try that with my Heresy III's! [8-|]

There's got to be someone here that has experience with this amp? []

[Dennie]

Hey Rick, you have to keep in mind, our friend QK lives on the other side of the world and gets gear that we don't. Not surprising.

QK, I would open it up and make sure nothing is leaking, like the capacitors and if it looks good, try it!

Keep us posted,

Dennie

[quadklipsh]

dennie,

yes the gear that comes here is usually japanese.

lots of technics,Kenwood, sony and bla bla bullshit midfi units.

but these marantz esotecs are rarely seen.

I saw pm6 about 4 yrs ago in the hifi market store and it got sold the same day.

but I am surprised at the ignorance of forum dudes.I thought they'd instantly jump in on this.but people don't know esotecs.

surely the guy using it says its in fully operational form n scratchless.

I'm gonna get it whatever the state.

its a classic !!!!!

and its 2nd from their top models. highest being pm8 which eats the marantz pm94 for breakfast !!!!!! period . go figure

[Guest " "]

The specks show 100 volts ac, unless we jumped to another unit. Do you have 100 volts ac? I wouldn't run old gear in an over voltage situation.

[sheltie dave]

Quad, it is not ignorance, it is a lack of experience for the majority of folks here. This Esotec is over thirty years old, and was very rarely sold in the US(on a relative basis.) The lack of significant sales, and the lack of response from Klipsch owners is to be expected.

That said, I have the led readout integrated, and know three other folks who have Esotec gear. They are uniformly excellant, and work quite well with Klipsch. Buy your friend's amp with confidence it will play well with Klipsch.

[SWL]

I'm gonna get it whatever the state.

its a classic !!!!!

Go for it Quad. Be sure to let us know how it compares to your 2230.

[quadklipsh]

yeah I hv 220 and 100v both.

[willland]

Quad,

$150.00 seems like not a lot of $$$ for a rare classic piece. If fully functional and cosmetically unscarred, I say go for it and try it out.

Definitely plenty more power than your 2230.

Bill

[sunnysal]

buy it! these are very nice units. I have esotec units (an SM6 and SC6) and they are truely representatives of the top of the marantz line at the time, which was near the very end of the golden age of marantz. tony

btw this, quoted from classic-audio.com, a good site for info about marantz (and pretty much any other golden age audio brand):

"The "inheritors of the crown"

Around the time of transition to ownership by Philips of the Netherlands, Marantz produced the Esotec series.

This series was, for the most part, a cosmetic rebuild of the high-end products in the 1977 through 1980 product lines, with the notable exception of a brand new turntable design, the TT1000, and the SD7 tape deck. These units were the beginning of a very high end series - there are other Esotec units that appeared in the years immediately following the introduction of the ones I'll introduce you to on this page.

These components were very good candidates for a differentiated high-end line; they offered the highest fidelity of any set of components Marantz had ever produced, and in addition, outperformed virtually anything else on the market at that time, various audiophile myths and competitor's claims notwithstanding. "Specsmanship", the supposed art of twisting specifications around to make your product look better, was not something Marantz had to participate in; using the most conservative measurement techniques, allowing for considerable headroom, and on top of all this, specifying for the minimum performance of production-line units meant that the Esotec models (and the original models which are electronically identical as noted below) were so good that they literally had no peer as a consumer product line."

http://www.classic-audio.com/marantz/mindex.html

and has a little about esotec

http://www.classic-audio.com/marantz/esotec.html