Arash Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I'm gonna buy a pair of BMS 4592ND ... I was wondering if I can use them in any of my Heritage speakers as an upgrade... Cornwall and Klipschorn I mean sould I buy 8Ohm version or 16Ohm? why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacea Engineering Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The 4592ND is a TWO inch driver. All of Klipsch's horns in the speakers that you mention are ONE inch. You will have to change the horns out to to something that will accept the TWO inch drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 The 4592ND is a TWO inch driver. All of Klipsch's horns in the speakers that you mention are ONE inch. You will have to change the horns out to to something that will accept the TWO inch drivers. Oh ... for sure... I forgot to mention that I'll use a proper 2inch horn (maybe JBL 2380) or build a 2inch tractrix horn... that's ok... I want to know if I can use this compression driver is a Klipschorn or Cornwall... how about XOvers? should it be changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I believe there are various adaptors available that allow 2" drivers on stock Klipsch horns. Try Fastlane Audio. Edit: Mistake on my part. You can go up but not down. Helio is right, you need new horns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg928gts Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 The 4592ND is a TWO inch driver. All of Klipsch's horns in the speakers that you mention are ONE inch. You will have to change the horns out to to something that will accept the TWO inch drivers. I just thought I'd point out that in the Klipsch Klipschorn Specs page, it clearly states that the Khorn midrange driver is a 2" driver. Should be no problem to put a 2" BMS 4592 on the Khorn mid horn. http://www.klipsch.com/klipschorn-floorstanding-speaker MID FREQUENCY HORN: Exponential Horn MIDRANGE: K-55-X 2" (5.08cm) Phenolic diaphragm compression driver Greg [6] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny's Jill Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 The 4592ND is a TWO inch driver. All of Klipsch's horns in the speakers that you mention are ONE inch. You will have to change the horns out to to something that will accept the TWO inch drivers. I just thought I'd point out that in the Klipsch Klipschorn Specs page, it clearly states that the Khorn midrange driver is a 2" driver. Should be no problem to put a 2" BMS 4592 on the Khorn mid horn. http://www.klipsch.com/klipschorn-floorstanding-speaker MID FREQUENCY HORN: Exponential Horn MIDRANGE: K-55-X 2" (5.08cm) Phenolic diaphragm compression driver Greg I hope you are joking.It says the K-55x has a 2" Phenolic diaphragm. Craig 73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 let me pose another question: What XOver do you suggest for a klipschorn? (ALK?) another one: will a Selenium D405 and 220i tweets work in a Khorn? a suggestion: I use JBL M115-8A in my CW and work as good as CW1526C (I hate to say "better than") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny's Jill Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 let me pose another question: What XOver do you suggest for a klipschorn? (ALK?) ALK universal will work nicely. another one: will a Selenium D405 and 220i tweets work in a Khorn? It works, but you're better off with the k-55's. Going from the 4592ND to the D405 is like jumping out of a Ferrari into a Kia. a suggestion: I use JBL M115-8A in my CW and work as good as CW1526C (I hate to say "better than") Its no surprise that a JBL is a quality driver, whether it is a proper match, thats another story. The JBL is an 8 ohmm driver. Craig 73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash Posted June 22, 2012 Author Share Posted June 22, 2012 Going from the 4592ND to the D405 is like jumping out of a Ferrari into a Kia. I know 4592ND is a very sensitive and hi-quality CD ... all in all which one do you soggest: 1- two way klipschorn with BMS 4592ND coax + ALK Universal 2- three way klipschorn with Selenium D405 + ALK Universal 3- three way klipschorn with Atlas PD-5VH (K-55) + K-77 (or Bob's CT125s) + ALK Universal another question: BMS 4592ND is above 115db/1w/1m efficient, keeping this in mind, with it work in a klipschorn without any attenuator? will the sound be balanced between Woofer and top section? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lindsey Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I have a modified khorn that is a 3-way with the BMS 4592ND mid driver mated to Greg's V-Trac horn and ALK Universal, and it sounds amazing! As for attenuation I have the mids toned down 11db I think. ALK Universals make it pretty easy to attenuate. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash Posted June 22, 2012 Author Share Posted June 22, 2012 I have a modified khorn that is a 3-way with the BMS 4592ND mid driver mated to Greg's V-Trac horn and ALK Universal, and it sounds amazing! what tweeter are you using in this KHorn? As for attenuation I have the mids toned down 11db I think. ALK Universals make it pretty easy to attenuate. how come ALK Universal is so easy to attenuate midrange? what for? question: concidering that BMS 4592ND MID and BMS 4592ND Coax both are at the very close price, which one would be the best buy? will a coad drivers sound good in a good horn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny's Jill Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 BMS 4592ND is above 115db/1w/1m efficient, keeping this in mind, with it work in a klipschorn without any attenuator? will the sound be balanced between Woofer and top section? You need to attenuate the mid, no question. Combo #1 will work fine with the correct horn, it will get extremely beemy with a rectangular Tractrix, the Eliptrac would be a better choice for this. Combo #2 would not work well, the D405 will not effectively make it to 6k, you would need to cross around 4-4.5k Combo #3 is a tried and true combination, no arguement there. I am using a B&C DE-85tn in a 2-way combo with daves Eliptrac, couldn't be happier, really doesn't need a tweeter. Dave also built me a 2-way 1st order adjustable crossover that sounds great IMO, simple an effective. Craig 73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 I am using a B&C DE-85tn in a 2-way combo with daves Eliptrac, couldn't be happier, really doesn't need a tweeter. Uh thanks, acctualy there is a B&C distrubuter in Iran so I may be able to grabe them. which models can be use in a klipschorn? is there a win-situation for B&C agains BMS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I am using a B&C DE-85tn in a 2-way combo with daves Eliptrac, couldn't be happier, really doesn't need a tweeter. Uh thanks, acctualy there is a B&C distrubuter in Iran so I may be able to grabe them. which models can be use in a klipschorn? is there a win-situation for B&C agains BMS? The B&C drivers are very nice. I'm using the de82tn. I've also heard some BMS. They are both really good. Doubt you could go wrong with either. If I recall the bms coax needed a little eq to tame them. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 When did Klipsch switch to a two inch k55? http://www.klipsch.com/klipschorn-floorstanding-speaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjd Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 When did Klipsch switch to a two inch k55? http://www.klipsch.com/klipschorn-floorstanding-speaker Look at the specifications tab and that tab indicates the midrange uses a 2 inch phenolic diaphragm. I do not see any place where the site states a 2 inch throat, which a couple of posters in the thead seem to have concluded without reading all pages. [] MIDRANGE: K-55-X 2" (5.08cm) Phenolic diaphragm compression driver http://www.klipsch.com/klipschorn-floorstanding-speaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lindsey Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 what tweeter are you using in this KHorn? Beyma CP-25 how come ALK Universal is so easy to attenuate midrange? what for? There are tap settings that allow you to tone down the mids, which you will need to do with the BMS driver/V-Trac. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 The K55 has always had a 2" phenolic diaphragm, but the driver exit is less than 1". An EV DH2A has a 2" diaphragm and a 2" exit, is that a 2" driver? A JBL 2451 has a 4" diaphragm and a 1.5" exit, how do you classify this? A JBL D2430K has two 3" diaphragms and a 1.5" exit, how do you classify this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Comprende Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blvdre Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 When did Klipsch switch to a two inch k55? http://www.klipsch.com/klipschorn-floorstanding-speaker As Johnny pointed out, the K55 has a 2" diaphragm, same as it's always been. Most 1" drivers have a 1 3/4" - 2" diaphragm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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