kg4guy Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 The cabinets I made were sold to a Producer and Recording Engineer in L.A. ,Chris Clarke, here is his comment on the bass bins. ------Ara, I really like the bass bins. Saturday was my first chance to check the wiring and test the speakers. I used a Mackie 1400 amp in mono to power both sides and as a crossover @ 125Hz. Two way JBL double 15 cabs were then stacked on top. With the bass bins delivering the needed low end punch it was immediately clear just how bad the JBLs really sound. I swapped the JBLs for the Klipsch KLF-30s and the result was stunning without EQ or driver time alignment Having rested my ears my wife and I went back Sunday to give the system a proper workout. As the coils warmed up the the bass got deeper and we ended up hammering the system for 6 hours straight. The boxes have already surpassed my expectation and my friend told me the room already sounds better than a lot of the clubs she plays at across the globe. I'm already thinking about adding a second pair. Do you have plans/drawings for them? I was also wondering why the speaker chamber panel is on the bottom instead of the top. Do you see any problem with flipping the box and relocating the binding posts to the lid? Cheers, Chris. -------Here is a second email after they were dialed in.Ara, Your bass bins rock! Once the Klipsch tower had been delayed I brought the bin Xover up to match the 800Hz Xover of the KLF-30. I attached a quick video for you. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 The cabinets I made were sold to a Producer and Recording Engineer in L.A. ,Chris Clarke, here is his comment on the bass bins. ------Ara, I really like the bass bins. Saturday was my first chance to check the wiring and test the speakers. I used a Mackie 1400 amp in mono to power both sides and as a crossover @ 125Hz. Two way JBL double 15 cabs were then stacked on top. With the bass bins delivering the needed low end punch it was immediately clear just how bad the JBLs really sound. I swapped the JBLs for the Klipsch KLF-30s and the result was stunning without EQ or driver time alignment Having rested my ears my wife and I went back Sunday to give the system a proper workout. As the coils warmed up the the bass got deeper and we ended up hammering the system for 6 hours straight. The boxes have already surpassed my expectation and my friend told me the room already sounds better than a lot of the clubs she plays at across the globe. I'm already thinking about adding a second pair. Do you have plans/drawings for them? I was also wondering why the speaker chamber panel is on the bottom instead of the top. Do you see any problem with flipping the box and relocating the binding posts to the lid? Cheers, Chris. -------Here is a second email after they were dialed in.Ara, Your bass bins rock! Once the Klipsch tower had been delayed I brought the bin Xover up to match the 800Hz Xover of the KLF-30. I attached a quick video for you. Chris Well, that is good news. I would still like to see some actual curves on that bin, as well as a Hornresp Model of it. It is possible you got lucky with it. But I guess it doesn't matter at this point, as long as the buyer is happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sick2pray Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 Hey Guys: Right in the middle of sound tests for the lounge and not knowing the Lascala bin for a reference, the SP-1's are singing with the Behr 2496 at the helm. Crossing down to the sub with LR 12 @ 80 hz closing out with LR 24 @ 31 hz. Moving up to 499 hz with the LR 48, for the FH-1 pulling down 141hz -1.4 db and finally closing out at 19.6 hz with BW 48 while pulling up 15.1 khz @ +2.1 db for the CP-1. This was a possible thru the generosity of Moray James to sell the cabs to me and let me grow as a audiophile. Thanks again Moray your the best. By the way Ottmar Liebert never sounded so good to me in my entire life.2S2P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 for the FH-1 pulling down 141hz -1.4 db You might want to try pulling down about 6 db because it's a pretty high peak. Klipsch's Chief Engineer, Roy Delgado, based on the Hope Anechoic chamber measurements on the LaScala Bass Bin are -7 db at around that frequency, so don't be shy about it. It's not the woofer so much as the inherent peak in the horn. I do something similar to my SP-1/FH-1 bottoms with the Behr 2496, but with a different woofer and measument tools.............but it's right in that range. Also if you make the cut a bit wider, the midrange definition will improve at 499 Hz. where you really need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Great to hear that it is all coming together so well and so quickly. Sounds like you are working your tail off. Keep us posted. It was a pleasure to meet with you and I am sure we have lost to discuss about audio and I would like to learn about the Behringer. Best regards for now Moray James. Those photo coppies are in the mail today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sick2pray Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 For all you guys interested in modding your Heresies talk to Moray; His brother and Moray put on a demonstration for me that floored me, truly staggering, Way to go Moray, love that golf ball mod:):). Will see you soon.2S2P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Thanks Paul. The golf balls have morfed int table tennis balls which are a little smaller in diametre and seem to do the job a little better. Best regards Moray James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sick2pray Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 Moray ,Claude; Check out the Faital Pro 15PR 400. It appears to have great specs all around and the impedance curve looks excellent thru 70 hz up to 1khz. I found them by accident while looking for some 8" woofers for the Snails III.Let me know if they are what they appear to be as I'm trying to find EVM 15L's, but so far only 8ohm versions, and really need to get moving on all the horns I've got to build. We are converting the gun range that's in this multiplex, into a work shop( sound proofed) so I can build and test at the same time. Thanks 2S2P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I know someone in town who might have some EVM15L's I will give him a call and let you know. Will take a liik at thr 15PR400 in the AM. Best regards Moray James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Moray ,Claude; Check out the Faital Pro 15PR 400. It appears to have great specs all around and the impedance curve looks excellent thru 70 hz up to 1khz. I found them by accident while looking for some 8" woofers for the Snails III.Let me know if they are what they appear to be as I'm trying to find EVM 15L's, but so far only 8ohm versions, and really need to get moving on all the horns I've got to build. We are converting the gun range that's in this multiplex, into a work shop( sound proofed) so I can build and test at the same time. Thanks 2S2P That woofer would work fine in a horn. What cabinet will you use with it? Are you trying to replace the Peavey woofers in your SP-1 (what I call a "cheap La Scala"). What is a Snails III? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFunk Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 9/26/2012 at 2:32 PM, Coytee said: Yep, four drivers in the cabinet. I was looking at acquiring some of those a really long time ago (late 80's or early 90's, I forget) There is a two driver version but the T18 is the best performer. Now if I can only get a 12" version tuned for bass guitar to around 50 or 60 hz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFunk Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Can any one scale down the Legendary T18 for a 12 inch driver and a port tuning of say 50hz, for bass guitar or home use? I can build it but I don't know how to tune it or scale it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koloneliupasaulis Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 On 9/24/2012 at 2:46 AM, Marvel said: Are you in England? Ah..... I also have the drawings for a set of Martin 215 MkII cabs. THey look pretty good, and also a set of the Martin 215 MkIII, which, of course, they say is better. Bruce Hello Marvel! can you help me with Martin mkII cabs plans, can you send by mail? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Wow .. a long time ago. I'll see if I still have the drawings or can find them online again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 4 hours ago, koloneliupasaulis said: Hello Marvel! can you help me with Martin mkII cabs plans, can you send by mail? Thank you! the plans are all over the web ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koloneliupasaulis Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Were?? Only b115 and 215 mk3 , i found something, but there i need more measurements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Inc. Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 9/23/2012 at 8:46 PM, Marvel said: Are you in England? Ah..... I also have the drawings for a set of Martin 215 MkII cabs. THey look pretty good, and also a set of the Martin 215 MkIII, which, of course, they say is better. Bruce Hey Marvel can you email me the drawings for the Martin 215 MKII cabs that you have .Thank you in advance shaneramdass2402@yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I'm not sure if I still have those plans from 20+ years ago. I'll sift through some of my folders when get home from work and grocery shopping tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just build an S-MWM if you want effortless distortion free bass. just MHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 That's the truth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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