mustang guy Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Carl, How big of an area is needed for an infinite baffle? I have a large area under my fireplace and behind a tv, but I doubt that it is big enough to work. A minimum of 10 times the Vas of the 4 drivers combined is ideal. Smaller will work if necessary but at least 10x is the recomended volume. I saw one a guy built outside his home, with a port into the house. It sorta looked like an A/C unit. I'm not sure what it sounded like on the outside. I will see if I can find that thread. edit: I found it: Here's the link: http://www.cowanaudio.com/ib.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergyfreak Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I was able to get my row-115s for 1250 total price for two of them thanks to delayed shipping have 500 sq. foot room and they fill my room up great, using rf-7 combo with RC-62 center channel speaker setup with rear in ceiling r-3800s. Dialing the two subs together was biggest issue but some fine tweaking helped a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I was able to get my row-115s for 1250 total price for two of them thanks to delayed shipping have 500 sq. foot room and they fill my room up great, using rf-7 combo with RC-62 center channel speaker setup with rear in ceiling r-3800s. Dialing the two subs together was biggest issue but some fine tweaking helped a lot. I think you mean SW-115. If so, I am sure you have more than adequate sub-bass. Also, you got a great price. Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergyfreak Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 yeah sorry was typing on my ipad last night lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Picts of twin 115's please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mustang guy Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Nice work! I bet it sounds fantastic. I clicked on the image and saw the before pictures on photobucket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergyfreak Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Thanks going to post some more pics took with my iPad built the system up of the years lot of effort but well worth it trying to get an RC-7 to complete the system bidding on one on eBay right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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K5SS Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Up your budget a little and get a Rythmik FV15HP. I have owned many subs and this thing absolutely destroys all of them, including my SVS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Lots of good and interesting advice, There is another i think i've seen Carl(CECAA850 Sorry if i messed that up) build F20? that look good,very clean and the plans also looked relatively easy. I think it takes up less floor space that the BFM Tuba. I still think it would be nice if Klipsch came out with their own Horn loaded Sub. Ok, so whats the plan for that $1000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Yes, the F-20 is just about the easiest horn loaded sub you can build. It's way below his budget even with the amp. WAF? That's another issue but it does have a fairly small footprint for the output you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Three Tapped horn subs using 3 LAB 12 drivers. $300 each DIY. One shakes the floor. 3 shakes the whole neighborhood. Down to 15 Hz., which can't be touched by wimpy direct radiator woofers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 which can't be touched by wimpy direct radiator woofers. Nice, All of a sudden my sub feels so inadequate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake_mooney Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Three well placed Klipsch rw12d's (when on sale) are about the best you can find for under $1000. I have one of these paired with a BIC pl-200' and it's out of this world!! I hit 17hz pretty easily. I dunno...The RW-12D is only rated down to 24 Hz. It definitely hits lower than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Yes, the F-20 is just about the easiest horn loaded sub you can build. It's way below his budget even with the amp. WAF? That's another issue but it does have a fairly small footprint for the output you get. I agree. It's the same XY dimensions as my 30x60" Tapped Horn Sub, just a larger Z dimension. It's more like 20-100 Hz. instead of 15-60 Hz (my TH's output is room dependent, but mine is in a big room finally). IThe F-20 is also more efficient by several Decibels. So you are trading box size for efficiency or lower bass, just like in a bass reflex. The same principles apply. It's not quite as easy to build as mine, and takes a bit more lumber, BUT, it's in the same class of outperfoming ALL direct radiator subs, it you can handle the cubic feet of lumber space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 which can't be touched by wimpy direct radiator woofers. Nice, All of a sudden my sub feels so inadequate... Perhaps I used too strong of a word to create contrast against horn loading the lows. However, it's a matter of principles of physics, now isn't it. Horn subs provide higher output, greater detail, and WAY lower distortion. Once you have experienced horn subs you will never go back to a DR sub, ported or not. Paul Klipsch founded his company on 2 and 3-way ALL HORN systems from mono to 3 channel. All klipsch speakers have at least ONE "horn in the box" Since this is Klipsch's Community, and Klipsch IS horns, it only makes sense to plug Horn SUBS here, n'est-ce pas? The question remains: Why doesn't Klipsch produce Horn Subwoofers? Easy answer: They would NOT sell. But there are enough enthusiastic fanatical freaks like me on this board to suport the DIY notions that inherently make us REBELS to begin with. Now y'all go a and make some good sawdust, heah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Dont get me wrong, i do agree. however, i just cant find the time to build a couple...for now my 684 has to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Three Tapped horn subs using 3 LAB 12 drivers. $300 each DIY. One shakes the floor. 3 shakes the whole neighborhood. Down to 15 Hz., which can't be touched by wimpy direct radiator woofers. Or maybe 2 subs and 1 amp[]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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