Brahmzy Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) Hey all, wasn't sure where to post this (HT or Stereo.) I've had quite a few lines of Klipsch Reference speakers. Currently I've got a Ref IV line of RF-82s & RC-62. I'm really wanting the RF-7 II / RC-64 combo as I've moved and my living room is much, much bigger. For those that have owned both the RF-82s and RF-7IIs, was the upgrade worth it? Is the RC-64 II a pretty major upgrade from the RC-62? I've always thought my RF-82s were a bit on the shrill side, but I still love the sound. I've heard the RF-7 IIs take that shrillness down a notch or two, some people have liked that, some haven't. Any thoughts? Mixed duty of Music and HT. Not actually running a sub at the moment. Edited December 16, 2014 by Brahmzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Sure, the RF 7II is a better speaker. If you have the itch, no matter what people say, you will not be happy until you get it, lol. It is the Flagship of the current Reference line. What will be your main application Do you have the RC 64? If so, it will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahmzy Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Sorry I typo'd - I currently have the Ref IV RC-62. I guess my concern is that I've read of one or two people actually disliking the upgrade from their RF-82s to the RF-7 IIs. Felt they lost some forward detail. I don't want to be one of those few and want to make sure (after a big $$ upgrade) that this will be worthy upgrade. I want to make sure that some of the shrillness I hear is fixed, that I've heard so many others rave about as one of the major reason FOR the upgrade. Hope that makes sense. I think in some ways, seasoned Reference owners have come to expect some shrill sound and their taste now requires it, so when they don't have it, something's wrong. I wish I could just go listen to a set of RF-7 IIs, but I have nowhere local to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 take the 7's and run! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzydog Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Klipsch is supposed to be coming out with new speakers soon. I'd wait and see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahmzy Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Two different birds told me the RF-7 IIs will not be refreshed in March '15 like the rest of the Ref line- it'll be either July '15 or Jan '16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ69 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 If your speakers are shrill, it's not the speakers, just saying. What are you driving them with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahmzy Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) Currently driving the RF-82s with a DENON 2809ci (115w/ch). Not fatiguing shrill, but at normal listening levels, a bit brighter than I'd like. That's why I'm not convinced an external amp would change things at normal listening levels. I typically have to EQ out a bit of 1k-8k. I've had them in 3 different rooms (houses) now, all very different in treatments/layouts/surfaces. They've pretty much sounded the same in each location, to my ears. I have heard the RF-7 IIs have a bit more relaxed high end on them and I'm thinking this is what I'm after. I still love (always have) the Klipsch horn more forward/detailed sound. Edited December 16, 2014 by Brahmzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 man I've only heard the 7ii's a couple times and i didn't care for them at all. once hooked up to a flagship onkyo and then once through a marantz pre pro and parasound amp, and i just didn't like them at the time. but i was also so biased to my 63's both times that i may have not even given them a fair shot. what i will say is about the rc-64. i feel while it is an upgrade from the 62 i do not think its a huge upgrade. not for the extra money. lots on here that own it will most likely disagree, but i feel they are all guys who have not experienced a better center. i can vouch for the thx ultra kl-650 being a better center TO ME anyways. and of course my kit-904 is hands down 10 times the center channel of the 64. but it should be considering the sheer size. how important are looks? how much room do you have to work with? could you do a cinema speaker? something like the kpt-325? the cinema speakers and the heritage are where its at in the klipsch line. the cinema stuff to me is their hidden gem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahmzy Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Holy cow those 904s look beastly - that is an insane setup you have. Unfortunately, this is in my living/great room, so I cannot go full out like that or the wife would ruin me. An RF-7 is about it as far as size/obnoxiousness. And the centers gotta fit in my center console, which a will just fit. Can you go into why you didn't care for the 7s? I will say the 82's can deliver some very tight bass / mid bass snap without any hint of sounding boomy. Can the same be said of the RF-7 IIs? I would want the RF7s to be just as musical and tight as the 82s. Ugh, I've got the itch bad. I almost called and ordered this evening. Is there ANYTHING I would be giving up going to the RF-7s? Besides a lot of cash, lol. Edited December 17, 2014 by Brahmzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Psychology 101….wanting is more than having. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahmzy Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 True, sometimes. We use the setup everyday for hours. If I can enhance it, even a little, without giving anything up, I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I had the 82s and the rf7ii. It was worth it to me. They are less harsh. So I guess that could be losing something. But imo that's a great thing to lose. Make sure you get them for cheap. Or wait for a deal. I would look for used ones for under 1500. The pro speakers can be made to look pretty nice for not a lot of extra money. For the price of the 7ii you can get some of Klipsch best speakers they make. So you have to ask yourself what matters most sound or looks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahmzy Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 Well, I just ordered a set of RF-7 IIs and an RC-64 II! I'll give full impressions vs. my Ref IV RF-82s/RC-62 when they come in! The guy I talked to said that the whole Reference line up is changing drastically in 2015 and that the new RF-7 II replacements (June/Jul/Aug) timeframe will MSRP for like $4,500/pair. Pretty major changes coming. Atmos? I'm kind stuck with 5.1 in my room, so a full Atmos setup isn't very applicable. No room for side surrounds, just my 5650s in the ceiling behind me. So maybe the new RF-7 IIIs will have top mount for Atmos? I don't know. Or will they be going with a 3-way for 2015? Who knows. I got a killer price on these and can't be dropping $4,500 just on mains. Hopefully it's enough of an upgrade from my '82s! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Congrats on the new speakers. I think you will have a big smile when you see them and hear them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Speech is definitely best on the kl-650-thx as compared to reference. But they lose low end frequency response. Rf-64 fixes that but I feel they can be boomy on low male voices, exaggerating certain frequencies. Concert movies are nice though. Listening to Mark Whalberg talk is not as nice. I definitely like the larger tweeter in the rf-7ii's as compared to the smaller ones in the rest of the reference line. Edited December 17, 2014 by MetropolisLakeOutfitters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahmzy Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Congrats on the new speakers. I think you will have a big smile when you see them and hear them. I'm hopin'! Curious as to what the wife's first impressions are going to be, lol. I probably really should've done cherry, but oh well. I should queue up some 2001 soundtrack as she walks into the room. Edited December 17, 2014 by Brahmzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Speech is definitely best on the kl-650-thx as compared to reference. But they lose low end frequency response. Rf-64 fixes that but I feel they can be boomy on low male voices, exaggerating certain frequencies. Concert movies are nice though. Listening to Mark Whalberg talk is not as nice. I definitely like the larger tweeter in the rf-7ii's as compared to the smaller ones in the rest of the reference line. A little unwanted bloom on voice is easy to fix why don't you experiment with some damping you could start with trying a blanket of damping fabric behind the woofers. an old wool blanket would do. Hang a single layer of the blanket that way rear wave radiation has to pass through the blanket material and move it so you loose a lot of energy that way, which is good. have some fun and learn a little. Best regards Moray James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahmzy Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 Just spoke to a guy on the phone (Klipsch dealer). He said he basically sits and listens to pretty much most all of Klipsch's lineups all day long. He said many things, one of which was something like "The common misconception is that with each step up in the Reference line you go, you basically get an upgraded version of the one below it. This is not true with the RF-7 II - it really is a completely different speaker. Not just an upgraded RF-82 II." He had no agenda as I told him I already placed an order on them elsewhere. But he really sang praises for the RF-7 IIs. Obviously, he said there are better speakers out there, and certainly in Klipsch's upper lines, but he thought I was going to be pretty happy. Said to let them break-in 100hrs before judging. I remember when I first fired up my 82s - man they sounded kinda bad. Definitely have warmed up and have gotten better over the years. I've got some 10 gauge Blue Jeans cable for them with silver AQ Bananas I bought long ago. Good enough? A bit overkill on the gauge for 10ft runs I know. But you guys don't bi-wire or anything, right? I actually tried bi-wiring at one time on my 82s and could not tell a lick of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Congrats man, you will be in love with your new speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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