Moderators Youthman Posted March 6, 2016 Moderators Share Posted March 6, 2016 We are getting close to completing the new front cabinet for my home theater so I need to order a longer HDMI cable. My current cable is 40' but does not support 4k. I don't have 4k now but I want to install a cable that supports 4k in case I upgrade to a 4k projector in the future. So I'm considering the following: Luxe Series CL3 Active High Speed HDMI® Cable, 50ft - $64.99 Cabernet Ultra CL2 Active High Speed HDMI® Cable, 50ft - $60.00 Seems like the only difference between the two is the Luxe is CL3 (vs CL2) and has a "premium braided jacket" (whoohoo). Anything else I'm missing between the two? Any thoughts or suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalcomfort Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 For the extra 5.00 I would get the better jacket. Other than that it is a wash imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted March 6, 2016 Author Moderators Share Posted March 6, 2016 Yeah, I'm not worried about the extra $5....that's not really a factor in my decision....just looking for the best cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Sargent Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I've been happy with many monoprice cables. I would have a hard time looking elsewhere. I did an in wall installation of (3) 12ft HDMI, Toslink, and speaker. That setup has been great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 My experience has been that digital cables make little if any difference, assuming it has all the pins and connectors in the right places. Lowest price is usually my single buying criterion, along with checking customer reviews to make sure that the connectors don't fall off prematurely. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboKlipsch Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I think there is a 2.2 standard now that u may want to future proof against. I cant recall if it is more for gaming...3d or other but that i think is the the latest standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TasDom Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Some info from BJC on the subject. Hard to beat Monoprice for value tho. My MP 50' has worked fine although it's not 4K compliant http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/premium-hdmi-cable.htm http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/how-long-can-hdmi-run.htm?hdmidept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted March 7, 2016 Author Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2016 I've been happy with many monoprice cables. Me as well. My 40' Monoprice HDMI has worked well for several years. I think there is a 2.2 standard now that u may want to future proof against. I cant recall if it is more for gaming...3d or other but that i think is the the latest standard. No weak links allowed in the signal chainThe HDCP 2.2 issue doesn’t just apply to Ultra High Definition TVs and video sources — it affects any other components in the signal chain. If you run your HDMI connection through a home theater receiver or sound bar, it’ll need to be HDCP 2.2 compliant, as well. Any device in the chain that prevents the HDCP digital handshake from happening will prevent you from seeing a 4K image.HDCP 2.2 and HDMI 2.0When you read about 4K TVs, you’ll often see references to both HDCP 2.2 and HDMI 2.0, which can be a little confusing. HDMI 2.0 is also required for TVs and components to be able to pass 4K video. The big difference is that HDMI 2.0 is backward-compatible with previous HDMI versions, while HDCP 2.2 is not backward-compatible when it comes to 4K video. That means you can connect older sources, like a regular Blu-ray player or cable box to a new 4K TV and enjoy an HD picture. But if a 4K TV senses a 4K video source, it's going to look for the HDCP authentication in order to complete the digital handshake. If it doesn't see it, no 4K picture. Looks like the "new standard" comes with some drawbacks by not being backward compatible. Looks like 2.0 will be fine for me at this point. Some info from BJC on the subject. I'm sure they make quality cables....but their website sure doesn't reflect that. It's extremely cluttered and limited pictures of their products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted March 7, 2016 Author Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2016 I've never been a fan of connecting cables....I'd much rather use one long cable than connect two shorter cables.......BUT I was talking to wakejunkie and he suggested connecting a shorter HDMI cable for the Drawer. He's concerned about the longer cable "moving" with the drawer. You can see below about how far the drawer will extend out. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Get the Luxe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) I've never been a fan of connecting cables....I'd much rather use one long cable than connect two shorter cables.......BUT I was talking to wakejunkie and he suggested connecting a shorter HDMI cable for the Drawer. He's concerned about the longer cable "moving" with the drawer. You can see below about how far the drawer will extend out. Any thoughts? [picture] I would use EZ Locks if you are worried about them coming loose: http://www.showmecables.com/product/HDMI-EZ-Lock.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&utm_campaign=3610&gclid=CjwKEAiAx--2BRDO6q2T84_a52YSJABWAbfrxU7mDwCzh8tVj0LhMS6YLpqBQxB0bqkWDzzrR6OS2hoCWyfw_wcB Edited March 7, 2016 by mustang guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted March 7, 2016 Author Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2016 That was hilarious watching him swinging that Blu-ray player around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzydog Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I ran a Cabernet cable in wall to my projector. It has a nice thick jacket. Works good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Couple things come to mind. One, why not run some 1" low voltage flexible conduit, so you can easily upgrade down the road. Two, have you thought about cat5/6 over HDMI. http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=8009 Which ever you decide, make sure you pay attention to the source/display markings on the cable. I made that mistake, once.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted March 7, 2016 Author Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2016 Duder, I'm not sure that extender supports Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted March 7, 2016 Author Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) Wake is concerned about the cable flexing every time the drawer is opened Edited March 7, 2016 by Youthman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted March 7, 2016 Author Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2016 His thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboKlipsch Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I think Wake has the right idea. With an HDMI cable, you are sending a digital signal that shouldn't be subject to loss or resistance. With a female connector that doesn't move routed the 40 ft to wherever it goes....you can then have a 4 6 or 8 ft (whatever needed) that moves with the drawer and can be replaced should there be an issue. So I googled too: http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/system-setup-connection/25675-will-multiple-hdmi-connections-lose-quality.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboKlipsch Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 also: Using HDMI ExtendersFor distances longer than 15 meters, HDMI extenders can be used. An HDMI extender is a pair of devices that are used to convert HDMI cables to Cat 5/Cat 6 cables, allowing longer runs. They usually amplify the signal as well, ensuring that the signal level received at the far end will be sufficient. When using HDMI extenders with a Cat 5/Cat 6 cable, runs of up to 250 meters (820 feet) can be made. There are also HDMI extenders that work over optical fiber lines. With these, the source can be placed as far as 300 meters (980 feet) from the monitor. http://www.ebay.com/gds/Everything-You-Need-to-Know-About-HDMI-Cables-/10000000177630531/g.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted March 7, 2016 Author Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2016 I'm ok with using two cables as long as I can achieve Dolby TrueHD and DTS Master for audio and up to 4k @ 60Hz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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