cincymat Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Norton readies superbike for the 2017 Isle of Man TT Mark 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2point1 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Ceptorman said: Hey 2point1, are you a flat tracker? No , I spent 2 years as a wrench. Then I hooked up with a road racer for a 3 years.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 11 hours ago, Ceptorman said: His last win there was on a Honda VTR1000r (RC51 in the USA) I have one of these bikes in my garage... Wow, that's crazy to keep an RC-51 like that. If I had a bike that gorgeous, it would be in my living room. +++ EDIT: Road racers are crazy. I would never race the Isle of Man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 2 hours ago, 2point1 said: No , I spent 2 years as a wrench. Then I hooked up with a road racer for a 3 years.. That's cool. Anyone we might have heard of? 2 hours ago, wvu80 said: Wow, that's crazy to keep an RC-51 like that. If I had a bike that gorgeous, it would be in my living room. +++ EDIT: Road racers are crazy. I would never race the Isle of Man. Dave...why do you think it's crazy? I't just a street bike. It's actually very easy to ride. It's a torquey V-twin, doesn't require a lot of shifting. Probably no harder to ride than your Suzuki, maybe a little more leaning forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 42 minutes ago, Ceptorman said: That's cool. Anyone we might have heard of? Dave...why do you think it's crazy? I't just a street bike. It's actually very easy to ride. It's a torquey V-twin, doesn't require a lot of shifting. Probably no harder to ride than your Suzuki, maybe a little more leaning forward. I raced MX, cross country, enduros, hare scrambles and International Six Day Trials 2-day qualifiers and did some dessert riding over a ten-year period. Most of the time when I fell down I got dirty. When you road racers fall down you get hurt, as in you could get killed, hurt. It scares me and just seems crazy to go that fast. I don't mind shooting 60 mph off a jump downhill, but to go 120 mph into a high speed sweeper at 13,000 RPM? I wouldn't even think about doing that. I'd finish last in every race. I'm being a bit tongue-in-cheek, but the reality is I have immense respect for road racers and the skill it takes to keep those bikes upright at speed in corners. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 3 hours ago, wvu80 said: Wow, that's crazy to keep an RC-51 like that. I know right? If I had one, it would look like my leathers: It would have battle scars from dancing on the other side of the line. I miss road racing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 As great as the Isle of Manns is... and it is a great race... the North West 200 is really extreme. It's not a time trial, it's an all out race head to head. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 4 hours ago, wvu80 said: I raced MX, cross country, enduros, hare scrambles and International Six Day Trials 2-day qualifiers and did some dessert riding over a ten-year period. Most of the time when I fell down I got dirty. When you road racers fall down you get hurt, as in you could get killed, hurt. It scares me and just seems crazy to go that fast. I don't mind shooting 60 mph off a jump downhill, but to go 120 mph into a high speed sweeper at 13,000 RPM? I wouldn't even think about doing that. I'd finish last in every race. I'm being a bit tongue-in-cheek, but the reality is I have immense respect for road racers and the skill it takes to keep those bikes upright at speed in corners. I always thought people that blasted through the woods, inches from the trees, hitting a jump and then 60' in the air, then leaning the wrong direction in the turns were crazy! It's amazing how easily the pros can switch from dirt to asphalt and still be quick. Nicky Hayden is probably the best in the world at that. 4 hours ago, Woofers and Tweeters said: I know right? If I had one, it would look like my leathers: It would have battle scars from dancing on the other side of the line. I miss road racing I did have it on a track one time, it was fun but I just didn't want to damage it, and you know that's not the right state of mind while on the track. What's the saying....don't bring anything to the track that you're not willing to throw in the dumpster at the end of the day. I did race a mini-RC51....a Suzuki SV650 Superbike. I actually turned faster laps on the SV, 90 hp, 320 lbs, and full race suspension. It's a fun little bike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusaDude Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 16 hours ago, Schu said: As great as the Isle of Manns is... and it is a great race... the North West 200 is really extreme. It's not a time trial, it's an all out race head to head. The NW200 is run on a 9 mile long course that is basically 3 long straights in the form of a triangle. The IOMTT is run on a 37 mile long course all over the island. It takes years just to learn it. Even being a heads up race, the NW200 is not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 21 hours ago, cincymat said: Norton readies superbike for the 2017 Isle of Man TT Mark Sexy bike. I wonder what engine configuration it is? I see 2 pipes coming out of the back, so it's some kind of a V...maybe a V-4. On recent race bikes, you can see the lack of a rear tail section, I wonder if it's more aero related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincymat Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Ceptorman said: Sexy bike. I wonder what engine configuration it is? I see 2 pipes coming out of the back, so it's some kind of a V...maybe a V-4. On recent race bikes, you can see the lack of a rear tail section, I wonder if it's more aero related. From a newsletter I subscribe to from the Isle of Man TT website: "The SG6 will feature the V4 Aprilia CRT motor with Norton’s own V4 engine being raced in 2018. Heavily based on the TT racer geometry wise, the V4 SS road bike is almost identical to the SG6 TT bike in terms of frame stiffness, weight distribution and chassis." More information here: Norton fields all Australian 2017 TT Team Mark 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 That's very interesting. That Aprilia V4 CRT is the engine they used in their current Moto-GP bilke. That's a monumental task by Norton to developer their own engine, probably to save money, especially if they're using it in a street bike. It says it has 230 hp, I wonder how much power the street version will have? I will guess around 200. I love V-4 bike engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 20 hours ago, Schu said: As great as the Isle of Manns is... and it is a great race... the North West 200 Cool video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Obligatory Aprilia Picture... One my favorite bikes... and certainly one that handled the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) I have never heard of the Northwest 200, thanks for the heads up. I do not think the Moto GP guys would stand a chance at the IOMTT. I do miss the Indy Moto GP as The Circuit Of The America is a bit to far for me to ride from Indy, especially in late April, of course I could swing by Hope on the way home. Edited January 25, 2017 by Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 There a quite a few of these type "road races" outside of america.... Joey Dunlop didn't die at Isle of Manns, it was another on road race while riding one two five class ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 On 1/21/2017 at 8:58 PM, Schu said: One my favorite bikes... and certainly one that handled the best. Yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Woofers and Tweeters said: Yours? Yeah... I bought it in 2004'ish, and sold it late 2006 when I moved to Memphis from so cal. It is a Aprilia Nera in case some wanted to know. 1 of 50 made... I have more pictures somewhere. Full Superbike titanium exhaust... factory magnesium rims... magnesium cases... full carbon bodywork including tank from the factory... Superbike forks with radial monoblock calipers (nearly unheard of back then) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 On 1/25/2017 at 7:17 PM, Schu said: Yeah... I bought it in 2004'ish I never had anything so nice, tricked or light. Where those Marchesini Wheels? @Ceptorman has seen wheels that no one else has. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 The rider did okay, but the passenger was totally committed. Skip to 10:03 Have to say that, for riding 2 up, on a bike that wasn't made to be nimble and one that he's probably paid for, the rider did okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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