avguytx Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I guess there's a buyer for everything. No affiliation https://www.ebay.com/itm/Klipsch-Forte-Speakers/382427636888?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140725133649%26meid%3D275e2bb5115345b28069d24942febf5c%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D312101579430%26itm%3D382427636888&_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 We've seen these before. A guy and his son refurbs Klipsch speakers with exotic looking nice veneers then tries to resell them for quadruple what they would normally sell for on the used market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 I knew who they were already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 58 minutes ago, wvu80 said: We've seen these before. A guy and his son refurbs Klipsch speakers with exotic looking nice veneers then tries to resell them for quadruple what they would normally sell for on the used market. Yep, they're up around Dallas I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 And they've yet to sell any of the pairs. All still listed on Craigslist. They're super nice guys, but I think they came across Volti and said "we can do that". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 No, they did sell a pair of Belle's to someone in AZ. Now those are back for sale, too, on the bay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Didn't realize the Belle's had sold. Go figure.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 Yup. For that way out there price plus shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 33 minutes ago, Thaddeus Smith said: Didn't realize the Belle's had sold. Go figure.. You have to wonder what he got for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Exotic veneers aren't cheap and always were a big price jump even from the factory before all the laws and regs came about on exotic woods. I'm not a fan of that veneer on those cabs. Its looks very synthetic and unattractive IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogman Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Pimpin'! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, Max2 said: Exotic veneers aren't cheap and always were a big price jump even from the factory before all the laws and regs came about on exotic woods. Fair, but these aren't new speakers rolling off the line. They only throw in Crites' crossovers or replace drivers when needed. So they buy cheap vintage speakers, slap some exotic veneer, maybe update some components, and then ask 3-4x the average price of those speakers on the used market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus89 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Yeah i see them on Craigslist all the time. I agree exotic veneer isn't cheap + labor, but as far as that pair of forte's and the other pairs of Klipsch they've applied exotic veneer to, i'm just not a fan. Not just theirs, but mostly every pair of Klipsch I've seen that was re-veneered. Rosewood(i love natural rosewood, just not stained) or whatever exotic or different looking wood. Whatever kind that isn't the norm. I've seen a lot of new veneer put on old Klipsch and they never look quite right, probably because they don't look factory. If it was me, i'd stick to as close as possible to any of the veneers Klipsch offers from factory. Figured Walnut. I've seen planked and knotted walnut which looked wrong. Oak-ebonized-oiled-distressed or Ash-ebonized. Cherry-natural or the previous stain. Australian Walnut. Mahogany-flat cut-ribbon striped. Flat black, and a very deep rich brown "ebony" seems to be sticking around. I don't know. Maybe it's just me and i don't like wood veneer that distracts too much. I suppose it would look nice if it matched all the other furniture in the house. One thing i notice with a lot of these veneer jobs also is that they stop there and leave the front and back motorboards as is instead of freshening those up with new black paint or going further than that and veneering those front and backs as well. Also, the grills being sort of faded and nearly grey makes it look outdated as that covers the entire front and captures the eye first. Just my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus89 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Thaddeus Smith said: Fair, but these aren't new speakers rolling off the line. They only throw in Crites' crossovers or replace drivers when needed. So they buy cheap vintage speakers, slap some exotic veneer, maybe update some components, and then ask 3-4x the average price of those speakers on the used market. Maybe it's just an outrageous starting point and they let people make realistic offers because i see their speakers come and go on craiglist so they must be selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, Thaddeus Smith said: Fair, but these aren't new speakers rolling off the line. They only throw in Crites' crossovers or replace drivers when needed. So they buy cheap vintage speakers, slap some exotic veneer, maybe update some components, and then ask 3-4x the average price of those speakers on the used market. Oh, I wasn't justifying their price by any means, just stating that the exotic veneer isn't cheap and you need large sheets to keep the grain the right direction for tops, sides, fronts, etc. You want a large enough amount to match both speakers. 4'X8' Rosewood is around $600-$700. You can get longer, more narrow runs cheaper though, but matching may not be as good. But hey, if someone steps up and buys them, good for the seller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Max2 said: Exotic veneers aren't cheap and always were a big price jump even from the factory before all the laws and regs came about on exotic woods. I'm not a fan of that veneer on those cabs. Its looks very synthetic and unattractive IMO. That's why I used the exact word "exotic." I thought it looked pretty good but those of you with a more educated eye described technical problems with how the veneer looked. I try to learn from others. I don't doubt the guy and his dad put a lot of work into their product and when they figured their costs they are asking for enough to justify their time and skill. It's just that from my perspective as a consumer of a used product I value it differently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, wvu80 said: That's why I used the exact word "exotic." I thought it looked pretty good but those of you with a more educated eye described technical problems with how the veneer looked. I try to learn from others. I don't doubt the guy and his dad put a lot of work into their product and when they figured their costs they are asking for enough to justify their time and skill. It's just that from my perspective as a consumer of a used product I value it differently. Rosewood, Mahogany or even good old Walnut would have done those cabs justice. Someone may love that, but I guess I'm too conservative? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Max2 said: Rosewood, Mahogany or even good old Walnut would have done those cabs justice. Someone may love that, but I guess I'm too conservative? I tend to agree with your point of view. But heck, I'm the guy who likes black speakers. @Maximus89 put it better than I could have with a knowledgeable opinion and a critical eye. 47 minutes ago, Maximus89 said: One thing i notice with a lot of these veneer jobs also is that they stop there and leave the front and back motorboards as is instead of freshening those up with new black paint or going further than that and veneering those front and backs as well. Also, the grills being sort of faded and nearly grey makes it look outdated as that covers the entire front and captures the eye first. Just my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, wvu80 said: I tend to agree with your point of view. But heck, I'm the guy who likes black speakers. @Maximus89 put it better than I could have with a knowledgeable opinion and a critical eye. Every Speaker I own is black except for my mains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerkinMuffley Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I like those legs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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