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1 hour ago, CECAA850 said:

You can point to JR's blunder but in the end, Lebron as GM has the coach he wanted and the team he wanted. 

 

Win or lose it's on him. 

What?  That's not fair, it's a team sport.  Lebron scored 51 with 60% shooting and went 10/11 from the FT line.  Can you require more of him than that?

 

It's just a fact that JR Smith blew it with a boneheaded play and a lack of awareness at the end of regulation.  That's on JR, not Lebron.

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3 minutes ago, wvu80 said:

What?  That's not fair, it's a team sport.  Lebron scored 51 with 60% shooting and went 10/11 from the FT line.  Can you require more of him than that?

 

It's just a fact that JR Smith blew it with a boneheaded play and a lack of awareness at the end of regulation.  That's on JR, not Lebron.

Exactly.  I felt bad for LeBron.  His team admits he has the strongest work ethic of all of them.  It shows.  The man is all about being the best he can be, and he's made it clear his goal in life is to be the undisputed GOAT.  I hope he makes it.  It will take lots of rings.  Otherwise, it will not be "undisputed."

 

Bottom line:  Hill, an 80% shooter from the line, missed the game-winning free throw.  Smith rebounded right under the basket.  All he had to do is shoot it.  If he was really heads-up, he probably could have easily drawn a foul.  

 

"You gotta make those free throws!"  

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2 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said:

Bottom line:  Hill, an 80% shooter from the line, missed the game-winning free throw.  Smith rebounded right under the basket.  All he had to do is shoot it. 

Agree completely, I was thinking the same thing.  If Hill makes that last free throw we are not talking about JR Smith.

 

It's also the bottom line that as the team with the lessor regular season record, the Cavs MUST win a game on the road to win the championship.  That was certainly the game that got away.

 

I'm rooting for the Cavs but GS has a monster team with three all-stars and the Cav's have Lebron.  I'm not sure one all-star can overcome three.

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6 minutes ago, wvu80 said:

What?  That's not fair, it's a team sport.  Lebron scored 51 with 60% shooting and went 10/11 from the FT line.  Can you require more of him than that?

 

It's just a fact that JR Smith blew it with a boneheaded play and a lack of awareness at the end of regulation.  That's on JR, not Lebron.

A team sport that he's playing with a team he wanted.  He has all the power there.  He got rid of a coach and players to get the people he wanted.  The tail wags the dog in Cleveland or where ever he plays.

 

Lebron could have called a time out as well as the coach.

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8 minutes ago, CECAA850 said:

Lebron could have called a time out as well as the coach.

That would have been a horrible thing.  Tie game.  Your guy rebounds right under your own basket.  It's begging for a lay-up or a drawn foul.  That is no place to call a time out.  Instead, Smith bolts to the outside in a flash of about 1 - 1.5 seconds.  LeBron reacted to call a time out, but it was too late by then.

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15 minutes ago, CECAA850 said:

A team sport that he's playing with a team he wanted.  He has all the power there.  He got rid of a coach and players to get the people he wanted.  The tail wags the dog in Cleveland or where ever he plays.

Even if he did everything right, except pick his team, it doesn't appear any of us are disagreeing that he would do better to look for a new team.

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20 minutes ago, CECAA850 said:

A team sport that he's playing with a team he wanted.

So you think Lebron wanted a championship team so he picked George Hill, Rodney Hood, Jordan Clarkson and Larry Nance, Jr?  And to get these guys he dumped Derrick Rose, the league MVP with the Bulls and perennial all star and finals MVP Dwayne Wade? 

 

If you remember the first of the season the Cavs were getting blown out every other game because Rose and Wade were way past their prime and couldn't play defense.  It was a gutsy move to dump the aging superstars with tons of playoff success to go with no-names that would play their butts off on defense.

 

You dance with the girl you have, not necessarily with the girl you want.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Jeff Matthews said:

it doesn't appear any of us are disagreeing that he would do better to look for a new team.

I just have a feeling that where ever he goes, he'll eventually turn it into a similar version of where he's currently at.  He'll need to go where there's good players as once he's there, good players may not want to go there as he's liable to leave especially if he takes short term deals.

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1 hour ago, wvu80 said:

And to get these guys he dumped Derrick Rose, the league MVP with the Bulls and perennial all star and finals MVP Dwayne Wade? 

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Why do you think Lue is coach?  Why do you think they were so active at the trade deadline?  Why do you think Irving wanted out so bad?  Actually that's a bad example as I'm sure James wanted Irvin to stay but he had enough of Lebron.  Teams will (rightly or wrongly) do whatever he wants to try and appease him to get him to stay.  There's no denying his talent.  Anyone with a pair of eyes can see it but he seems like a cancer to team chemistry.   IMHO. 

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1 minute ago, CECAA850 said:

Anyone with a pair of eyes can see it but he seems like a cancer to team chemistry.   IMHO. 

Anyone with a pair of eyes knows that being on a team with Lebron is a ticket to the NBA finals, at least in the last 8 straight years.

 

If you are an NBA player, what is the priority?  Padding your personal stats or winning championships?

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Just now, wvu80 said:

Anyone with a pair of eyes knows that being on a team with Lebron is a ticket to the NBA finals, at least in the last 8 straight years.

 

If you are an NBA player, what is the priority?  Padding your personal stats or winning championships?

Playing on a TEAM that actually wins championships not just gets there.

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13 minutes ago, CECAA850 said:

Have you watched Rose and Wade play?  Rose hasn't played like an MVP in 7 years and Wades knees are shot. 

Sorry to split your post up. 

 

Absolutely you are right.  We get the Cavs on radio where I live (remember, West Virginia doesn't have any pro teams, we have to rent ours from other states).  B)

 

I thought the addition of Rose and Wade was a huge mistake and as the early season went on the Cavs got beat by 20-30 points every other night.  Those guys didn't hustle on defense and the Cavs got beat in fast breaks a a regular basis.  Wade and Rose responded by being terrible on offense where collectively they couldn't shoot a thing.

 

It was a gutsy move to dump them (and Isaiah Thomas from the Celtics) after the first half of the season.  They weren't going to get any better and even the no-names the Cavs got for them weren't going to be any worse.  That move saved the Cavs season and got them to the finals.

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How many NFL/MLP/Hockey (for Jimbo) players can force a coaching change or have that much influence on personnel?  The best player on the planet should leave those decisions to personnel directors.  Let them do their jobs.  The NBA is in a unique position  where one player has more of an impact on the outcome of the game than any other sport due to the number of players on the playing field at once.  Once the players (not just Lebron) realized this the balance of power shifted.  I don't think it's good for the sport but it's what we have.

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