Mighty Favog Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 In Ritzi Kenwood Towne Center mall outside Cincinnati, OH. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Ah yes, another one bites the dust! Overpriced, crappy sound that can't be compared to Klipsch or any other competitor because they are EXCLUDED (not to be confused with exclusive) from any A/B demo (Bose vs. Bose only). But their HUGE marketing budgets sure propagated their name among those who think speakers should be nearly invisible (or the size of sugar cubes). Heck, I met a Hewlett Packard Engineer at a convention in San Jose, who took me back to HP Headquarters to play me a Bose system with those little sugar cubes with shitty little subwoofer. He cranked them up and said "listen to how loud you can get these things, impressive for their size, don't you think?" Since I had lived with Klipshorns for many years and was accustomed to low distortion, I was appalled at how such grossly high IM distortion could be totally undetected by my otherwise intelligent host, with me cringing at my ears being tortured by the second. I just agreed with his premise so we could leave as soon as possible. Tin ears, indeed. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstrickland1 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 The L1 Model II is pretty bad *** though. The L1 Compact is a winner as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, wstrickland1 said: The L1 Model II is pretty bad *** though. The L1 Compact is a winner as well. At what price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstrickland1 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 I think I got the L1 Compact for around $800, think the L1 Model II was a little over $2k with the B2 woofer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, wstrickland1 said: The L1 Model II is pretty bad *** though. The L1 Compact is a winner as well. A "badass" opinion without supporting Magnitude/Frequency Response curves. Is just another opinion, just like mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstrickland1 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 lol, all I know is my daughter has done about 120 gigs this year all of which I set sound up for. The compact is the absolute schizzle. The Model 2 I have used to run her full band; her vocals and another singer, her acoustic guitar and even mic the kick drum and another up top on the drums. The bass and lead guitar run thru their respective amps. I have QSC 12.2's also but unless it's just a huge outdoor deal simply don't bother with all that jazz. They have at least 2 great products I can attest to that. Now at home I listen to LaScala 2's, Palladiums and a full RF7 HT so yeah I might know what sounds good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, wstrickland1 said: I think I got the L1 Copact for around $800, think the L1 Model II was a little over $2k with the B2 woofer. I do like the sound of line arrays for the home, but they have to be dipole to get the spatial 3D effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstrickland1 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 1 minute ago, ClaudeJ1 said: I do like the sound of line arrays for the home, but they have to be dipole to get the spatial 3D effect. These are PA systems for live sound (single acoustic, maybe a duo and some full band applications) in bar/restaurants, outdoor events, etc. The Compact in particular has been a life changer for me, and will be an easy great sounding solution for her to set up by herself when she's gigging her way thru college. It's all about the application. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiva Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Look at those shiny shoes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 god, I hope Klipsch never goes with vertical integration. while the allure of profitability and real estate ROI seems legitimate, I don't think it lends itself well to a specialty niche electronics market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 1 hour ago, wstrickland1 said: These are PA systems for live sound (single acoustic, maybe a duo and some full band applications) in bar/restaurants, outdoor events, etc. The Compact in particular has been a life changer for me, and will be an easy great sounding solution for her to set up by herself when she's gigging her way thru college. It's all about the application. I have 3 pairs of Carver Amazings (Platinum and AL III's) that use the Bohlender Graebener 45 and 60" Planar Magnetic drivers along with built in Subs (4 12's per channel in Platinums). They have amazing micro detail and dynamics for a non-horn setup, however they need gobs of power compared to horns, and lots of space away from walls to get the 3D effect. My experience with Bose, admittedly, was with earlier products. I still think their stuff is overpriced, either way. But as long as they do what they are designed for, I have no problem with the systems you mention or the compliment you have generously paid them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted September 29, 2018 Moderators Share Posted September 29, 2018 Good, they closed, saving people from buying overpriced audio. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstrickland1 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 1 hour ago, ClaudeJ1 said: I have 3 pairs of Carver Amazings (Platinum and AL III's) that use the Bohlender Graebener 45 and 60" Planar Magnetic drivers along with built in Subs (4 12's per channel in Platinums). They have amazing micro detail and dynamics for a non-horn setup, however they need gobs of power compared to horns, and lots of space away from walls to get the 3D effect. My experience with Bose, admittedly, was with earlier products. I still think their stuff is overpriced, either way. But as long as they do what they are designed for, I have no problem with the systems you mention or the compliment you have generously paid them. You have no idea how wonderful that makes me feel!! All I have been yearning for is your approval. Also learning that your speakers have amazing micro detail and dynamics is a huge bonus. My daughter is playing a private party tonight but the way my luck is turning out today I plan to leave early and buy a lottery ticket or two!! Thank you for making my day special. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 25 minutes ago, wstrickland1 said: You have no idea how wonderful that makes me feel!! All I have been yearning for is your approval. Also learning that your speakers have amazing micro detail and dynamics is a huge bonus. My daughter is playing a private party tonight but the way my luck is turning out today I plan to leave early and buy a lottery ticket or two!! Thank you for making my day special. One thing I like better than great horns is amplified, yet subtle sarcasm. Thank you for the above average dose you have given me here. My week is complete. LOL. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 4 hours ago, wstrickland1 said: These are PA systems for live sound (single acoustic, maybe a duo and some full band applications) in bar/restaurants, outdoor events, etc. The Compact in particular has been a life changer for me, and will be an easy great sounding solution for her to set up by herself when she's gigging her way thru college. It's all about the application. Yes indeed, application and the right watts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted September 29, 2018 Author Share Posted September 29, 2018 The one time I went in there, the Kool-Aid laden salesman boldly walked up to me and asked "Ready to upgrade your system!?" To which I reamed him out for the next 20-minutes with facts and figures he had no retort. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstrickland1 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 3 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said: One thing I like better than great horns is amplified, yet subtle sarcasm. Thank you for the above average dose you have given me here. My week is complete. LOL. She'll just about buy that one tonight and closing in on 120 shows this year. Do the math. Oh and she's 17 Sometimes easy is what's up 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted September 29, 2018 Author Share Posted September 29, 2018 That guitar in front of the chair in the background looks like Iit's from Animusic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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