How do I get bass out of Klipsch Cornwall IV?

[Bananas and Blow]

On 4/16/2023 at 8:58 AM, CoryGillmore said:

Sorry I missed this, I don't check in on the Klipsch forums as much as I used to. Probably something to do with the fact that I haven't purchased audio gear since November 2021, just been so content with my CWIV and Audiolab 6000a Play combo. I mentioned this in another thread, but I believe I was one of the first, if not the first, people to recommend you getting into a Klipsch Heritage speaker. It's cool to see that you've gone and picked up another pair! Though if I remember correctly, you live in a pretty small apartment, has that changed? 

 

A lot of people recommend subs with the Heresy line. But I would absolutely try placing them closer to the wall just to see. I actually use two subs with my CWIV if the mood strikes me. I've got two cheapo Klipsch subs hooked up to the pre-outs of the Audiolab and crossed over at 40hz, so they just pick up where the CWs fall off. I enjoy them with the subs too, but they lose their speed and precision with the subs enabled. I'm very much interested in a pair of Klipschs new subs, either a pair of 10s or 12s, but due to their massive size, it would damn near require a rearrange of my entire front stage lol. 

 

If this was on the Hoffman forums it may have been. I've only been on this forum for a couple of months. I have a decent sized room but yes live in a 2 bedroom apartment. I don't like too much bass so I can't fathom needing a sub for the Fortes. Maybe the Heresy though. I've got the Heresy IV now 12 inches from the back wall and the bass is nice and full and sounds great. But it does roll off under 50hz. I'll have to try my REL sub with them. They are finally broken in or at least I think they are and the Heresy is a great, great speaker. 

[OO1]

On 4/3/2023 at 6:21 PM, Bananas and Blow said:

The idea that the OP that returned them couldn't get bass out of a CW IV is laughable. It's rated to 34 hz! My fortes slam like no other speaker I've owned. And they are only rated to 38hz. 

There was a prior case of a new klipsch owner who bought the  CW IV speakers ,I cant remember if it was new or slightly used  , and he was complaining about the lack of bass ,  come to find out , the  person was right , and he was instructed by Klipsch tech support to unscrew the woofer,  and check the wiring  because there is no way that a 15 inch woofer does not have bass  , and yes , the woofer was wired incorrectly  , it  happens   

 

 

[CCG]

Wow this is a great topic and one of the future candidates on my speaker purchasing radar.

[CCG]

Would love to hear if anyone can post a video of a cornwall in action.

[mustang_flht]

look at her

 

 

 

 

[mustang_flht]

And here

 

 

[mustang_flht]

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[OO1]

JBL  4367  , 16.500$  vs Klipsch Cornwall IV  6K$   , no sweat 

 

 

 

[the real Duke Spinner]

On 4/19/2023 at 1:44 PM, OO1 said:

JBL  4367  , 16.500$  vs Klipsch Cornwall IV  6K$   , no sweat 

 

 

 

Listening on my phone, or computer speakers is not much help

[Bananas and Blow]

On 4/19/2023 at 10:12 AM, mustang_flht said:

look at her

 

 

 

 

 

I've listened to this in the past and the thing that really jumps out at me is the difference in midrange presentation. The CW is more forward and the Forte more recessed. I've had the Forte IV as my main speaker for a year and am thrilled with it's sound. However I recently picked up a pair of Heresy IV and listened to them for a solid 5-6 weeks. Once they were broken in I came to love the sound but missed that final octave of bass that the Fortes had. This week I put back the Fortes and the midrange sounds recessed to my ears. I miss the midrange "attitude" of the Heresy. I like the greater impact the larger Fortes make but the Heresy has a tighter snappier bass and bolder midrange. Never thought I'd think of replacing the Fortes with the Heresy but it's actually a possibility. Sounds to me like the CW is the better marriage of both with the deep bass and more pronounced midrange. I do not have room for the very wide CW's unfortunately. There is a pair locally for sale in my favorite walnut for $4500 also. Sigh. Can't have them all. 

[OO1]

On 4/20/2023 at 6:34 PM, the real Duke Spinner said:

Listening on my phone, or computer speakers is not much help

get a Bluetooth speaker 

 

 

[Jehowlind]

On 7/2/2021 at 2:56 AM, garyrc said:

• I had a McIntosh c28 preamp that had up to about 20 dB bass boost via the tone controls AND two Bass Trim controls that has about 2.5 dB more at 100 Hz, and 5 dB at 20 Hz.  It worked great in optimizing bass in many recordings, with many speakers, including Klipsch, JBL. ADC, etc.   It was a marvelous preamp in all ways except one; the right phono channel kept going out, was repaired several times, then sold.
• Even better was an very expensive Luxman integrated amp, L580 (I think) that had a choice of THREE turn-over frequencies for each tone control, AND a Low Boost switch (4 dB) for either 150 Hz or 70 Hz.  I tended to use Low Boost 70 Hz and bass tone control + 2 at the lowest turnover (150 Hz) on my Klipschorns.  The bass was incredibly clean, warm, and impactive.  On Fanfare for the Common Man, my desk would go out of square, and windows would rattle at the other end of the house.  Windows in the music room had to have wedges (shims) put into them so they wouldn't rattle.
• More recently, in another house, we converted to combo music listening room and home theater, and settled for a Marantz preamp processor, and several NAD power amps.  Its tone controls are limited to +/- 6 dB, but, fortunately it has Audyssey, which measures the room from the main listening position, and provides up to 20 dB cut and 9 dB boost.  This works well most of the time, and I can further EQ for idiosyncratic recordings with the tone controls at +/- 6 dB.  Sometimes that is not enough, but when it is, it's great!

 

 

Hello- newbie poster here, but been a member about 4 yrs. Been reading through this thread, and I think @garyrc -- the original hit the nail squarely on the head. I have a pair of CW IVs I bought new in 2020. I LOVE good, tight, bottom end slam, and have no issue with getting it out of my CW IVs. I was a kid in the 60s, teenager in the 70s. I have numerous pieces of restored vintage 70s receivers/amps, like Marantz 2325 and 2385, McIntosh MA6200, Pioneer SX-980 and a Sony STR-V7. I have no issue using my loudness and tone controls and get all the bass I ever need from these speakers. That's why we have these controls. If you prefer a more "unadulterated" sound and choose equipment that either does not have tone controls or choose not to use them- different strokes for different folks.

My point being that after 4 years of use with all of my various receivers/amps, I know the CWIV is capable of producing lots of bottom end slam if your equipment produces it. I will add that my Akai 747dbx reel to reel sounds jaw-droppingly good through these speakers.

[Travis In Austin]

1 hour ago, Jehowlind said:

Hello- newbie poster here, but been a member about 4 yrs. Been reading through this thread, and I think @garyrc -- the original hit the nail squarely on the head. I have a pair of CW IVs I bought new in 2020. I LOVE good, tight, bottom end slam, and have no issue with getting it out of my CW IVs. I was a kid in the 60s, teenager in the 70s. I have numerous pieces of restored vintage 70s receivers/amps, like Marantz 2325 and 2385, McIntosh MA6200, Pioneer SX-980 and a Sony STR-V7. I have no issue using my loudness and tone controls and get all the bass I ever need from these speakers. That's why we have these controls. If you prefer a more "unadulterated" sound and choose equipment that either does not have tone controls or choose not to use them- different strokes for different folks.

My point being that after 4 years of use with all of my various receivers/amps, I know the CWIV is capable of producing lots of bottom end slam if your equipment produces it. I will add that my Akai 747dbx reel to reel sounds jaw-droppingly good through these speakers.

Love that photo.