babadono Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Are the tweeters side by side with the volti mids or above/below? If side/side there is a left speaker and a right speaker. Have you ever tried swapping the tophats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWOReilly Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 hour ago, RickD said: The easiest solution is to sit on the stairs. It's noticeably better sound up high but it still sounds great when in my usual sitting position Buy a nice ladder. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickD Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 13 hours ago, babadono said: Are the tweeters side by side with the volti mids or above/below? If side/side there is a left speaker and a right speaker. Have you ever tried swapping the tophats? Side by Side - Mid tweet The top hats are currently installed in this configuration: left speaker is [ Mid - tweeter ] and the right speaker [ tweeter - Mid. ], Greg at Volti says he personally prefers the tweeters on the outside rather than the inside. It wouldn't take a lot of work to change that, all I have to do is remove the grill frame from the top hat and flip it over. The Volti mid horns are larger than the K55s they replaced taking up about 85 to 90 % of the vertical space of the grill and about 75% of the horizontal axis. The tweeters are mounted to a motor board in a horizontal configuration centered on the mid horn , rather than being mounted ||. The horizontal mounting of the tweeters would be easy to change simply by rotating the motor board 90 degrees. The tweeters have DE-120 drivers and CNC machined lenses that I purchased from a member of this forum. His name is Dave, don't recall his last name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickD Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 14 hours ago, OO1 said: -as it is , the dispersion pattern of the top hat is above your chair , the solution is not to raise but to lower the Mids -HF section by 1-2 inches , effectively lowering the dispersion pattern to the level of your chair . try this , remove the collar , remove the top hat , place the horn + tweeter directly on top of the bass bin , is it better ? The mid-range is not removeable from the frame, it's integrated into the frame using some type of adhesive. The mid is wood coated with some type of dampening substance. Best I could do is remove the top hat, remove the frame and set the frame on top of the bass bin. I'd have to place some books under the BMS drivers to prevent the assembly from tilting up. I there are two things I can do, flip the top hat frame over so that the tweeters are on the opposites sides of the speakers and rotate the tweeters 90 degrees so the are mounted in a vertical planes as opposed to a horizontal plane as they are now. Flipping the tweeter would be the easiest change to make. I could also give Greg Volti a call and see what he thinks. He designed and built the top hat configuration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 hours ago, RickD said: . Best I could do is remove the top hat, remove the frame and set the frame on top of the bass bin. Perfect, you'd be lowering the horn/tweeter section by a full 2 inches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMeader Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 another possible solution is to put the Base Bins closer together ( base is omni directional ) get something to use as a speaker stand and put the top hat portion on both sides of the base bins. A simple cardboard box could be used for testing . You would have to create a wiring solution but that should not be that difficult. Also it would be easy to test different locations. Oh Well Good Luck thinking outside the box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 @RickD so you can turn the tweets 90 degrees? I wonder if the polar pattern change would effect what you are experiencing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Rooms with high ceilings are challenging. Our livingroom presents a similar issue to what the OP is stating. In my case I wouldn't say it sounds better upstairs (which is open to the downstairs) but different and not unpleasing. Basically, I did nothing. It's a room issue not an equipment issue. I wasn't going to hang room treatments from my living room ceiling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Open floor plan rooms are the worst for a serious audio system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickD Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Shakeydeal said: Open floor plan rooms are the worst for a serious audio system. Not as bad as post WWII bungalows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Churches , Clubs with great sound systems , have high ceilings yet the sound is fabulous , even recording studios abound in old churches,with open floor plans , what really matters is the quality of the construction and the sound system , nothing to do with the Floor plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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