mark1101 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Which impedance tap are the Scott powered folks using and what difference do you notice? I have both of my Scotts on 8 ohms and everything is fine. I read that some are using the 4 ohm tap. What does that buy you? Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas42 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 ---------------- On 12/11/2003 9:03:52 AM mark1101 wrote: Which impedance tap are the Scott powered folks using and what difference do you notice? I have both of my Scotts on 8 ohms and everything is fine. I read that some are using the 4 ohm tap. What does that buy you? 4 Extra ohms? All kidding aside, I use my 299B with the 4 ohm tap and feel it *might* give a bit fuller sound. Try both and see if you notice a difference. It's often the cheapest tweaks that are the most rewarding... Regards, Dave ---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile homeless Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 While this seems like good advice on the surface, I have found that some amps actually do better via certain taps, not always going with the matching speaker impedance, especially since most speaker ratings are mere approximations with some having DIPS that will challenge. This is why I suggest to experiment here. Almost all the Jolida amps sound better via their 4 ohm taps no matter WHAT speaker (within reason). It pays to break the rules and use your ears every once in awhile. You might be surprised. kh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted December 11, 2003 Author Share Posted December 11, 2003 OK, thanks guys. Ryan, in school I always learned the version of this that you present. However, to the rest of the guys with Scott's, specifically what tap are you using with corns, LaScalas, and Heresys to get best sound? I'm just tyring to see what everyone is doing out there to get the best sound. In other words so I don't have to screw around as much. I think Ryan is technically correct however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai2000 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I don't know about the Scott, but I tried the 4 ohm taps on my Marantz and I got a more transparent (i.e. more three dimensional) soundstage, likewise with the Wrights (though I din't A-B it, relied on memory). Haven't tried the MC-30 at 8 ohm yet, but Win preferred the 4 ohm tap (which sounds very fine indeed ). Wolfram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Landau Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 but you're not using any Klipsch speakers........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 ---------------- On 12/11/2003 3:16:15 PM Guy Landau wrote: but you're not using any Klipsch speakers........ ---------------- Ryan, Don't cha think you should get some KLIPSCH speaker so we can get advise on the relationship between the scott amps, and LIKE TYPE speakers, comparing apples to apples instead of KLIPSH to BLOSE, excuse me JBL. "this is a Klipsch forum, and Klipsch minds would like to have Klipsch feedback" Smilin for awhile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Landau Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I have been using some JBL's horns in the past (C50 Olympus with S8R) and found them to sound best with the 8 ohm tap. The Khorns impedance varies from 4 to nearly 30 ohms and they sound good on both 4 and 8 ohm taps depending on the amplifiers and listener's taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile homeless Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Ryan, your comments really surprise me. It REALLY is speaker dependent and you of all people should know that the ratings given on the speaker specs are loose approximations at best, many times FAR more liberal than in reality. I have seen speakers with rating given as an average of 8ohms with major dips thus acutally doing better with a 4ohm tap. Also, some amplifiers really do handle this differently. On top of that, you are giving your impressions based on YOUR SPEAKERS and their rating, meanwhile neglecting the idea that other speakers differ here. When it comes right down to it, this is SPEAKER -AMP dependent...all assuming the stated ratings are accurate. The advice to TRY IT OUT makes sense here. I am surprised here. Over the years with the many amps I have tried I have seen as many surprises here with pairings. On the whole, you do take the recs in light, but trying this out someimes yields much better dividends. kh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I just A/Bed the 4&8ohm taps on a 299c and Khorns without touching the tone controls. 4 ohms was lifeless weaker bass and highs. 8 ohms is much sweeter sounding with my set-up. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Smilin, Even though he doesn't have Klipsch's we'll have to let Ryan keep posting. He has a great deal of technical knowledge and tries to keep Craig honest. That's a tough job you know. I don't know if you've been over to the HH Scott site yet, Ryan is one of, if not, the most helpfull poster (or is it imposter) in there. He knows his Scotch. I mean he knows his Scotts. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Rick- My experience was pretty much the same. I would not have characterized the 4 ohm setting so negatively, but I felt the 8 ohm offered a bit better dynamics from the bass horn. This was opposite my expectations, as the impedance in that area is closer to 4 ohms than 8 (I think). The 4 ohm (why doesn't my keybord have an omega on it?) setting was tighter, but I would call it constricted, when compared to the 8 ohm tap. This was especially noticable to me on well-recorded acoustic bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile homeless Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I agree here. I think Ryan is a good asset and have appreciated his attempting to keep the war down with more professional posts. The result is less rancor. From what I have heard, he does good work as well. IT's rare when you have this many people on one forum helping restore vintage gear. Although I dont always agree with Ryan, I think he has helped quite a few and has been messing with Scott amps for a LOOONG time. kh As an aside here, I prefer my EICO HF-81 on the 8 ohm taps with my CW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 steekin' BBS keeps converting my Omegas to Grave U's. alt-746 gives omegas in notepad, but this BBS doesn't like them Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 ---------------- On 12/11/2003 4:27:40 PM mobile homeless wrote: I agree here. I think Ryan is a good asset and have appreciated his attempting to keep the war down with more professional posts. The result is less rancor. From what I have heard, he does good work as well. IT's rare when you have this many people on one forum helping restore vintage gear. Although I dont always agree with Ryan, I think he has helped quite a few and has been messing with Scott amps for a LOOONG time. kh As an aside here, I prefer my EICO HF-81 on the 8 ohm taps with my CW. ---------------- Kelly, Are you saying the scotts suck and the eico is the way to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Landau Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 If he doesn't say it, I'll say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile homeless Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 "Are you saying the scotts suck and the eico is the way to go?" Ummmmm... This would be hard to do since I have never HEARD the Scott 299 in any guise, at least not in a LOOOONG time. My last experience with a Scott was the 222C. Who cares what I preferred at this stage. I have given up the vintage integrated debate. They all have good traits. That being said, all that post was saying was that I run my EICOs via the 8ohm tap with my CW. Be careful of what you say around here, even jokingly. Huge monster debates have started from MUCH LESS. kh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 ---------------- On 12/11/2003 5:25:43 PM mobile homeless wrote: " Are you saying the scotts suck and the eico is the way to go? " Ummmmm... This would be hard to do since I have never HEARD the Scott 299 in any guise, at least not in a LOOOONG time. My last experience with a Scott was the 222C. Who cares what I preferred at this stage. I have given up the vintage integrated debate. They all have good traits. That being said, all that post was saying was that I run my EICOs on via the 8ohm tap with my CW. Be careful of what you say around here, even jokingly. Huge monster debates have started from MUCH LESS. kh ---------------- Kelly, can't a guy have a little FUN for the holidays! heh heh heh Smilin forthe moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I've never run across so many nit $hit individuals in one place in my life. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 ---------------- On 12/11/2003 5:32:24 PM T2K wrote: I've never run across so many nit $hit individuals in one place in my life. Keith ---------------- And is mwa on the top of the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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