samuel r Posted June 15, 2001 Share Posted June 15, 2001 well the only thing i could think of that seems to be ruining maxg's surround performance and maybe quite a few others is the amp thats spelling begins with a "y" and ends with an "a". it's too bad. it seems like yamaha (oops, didn't mean to put that there) put's a zillion dsp modes into there amps/receivers and end up sounding like, well maxg explained it. i guess that's why i opted for denon. i didn't want to buy a receiver from a company that manufactures motorcycles, jet-skis, and an endless array of other products. i WOULD buy their bikes though. 5 channel stereo sounds awesome. but i really don't want to make an arguement about it. i would never give up my surround setup though. what would happen if you brought a date over the house (granted you're not married/taken) and she never experienced a chest pounding movie outside a theater. she'd be awed. my girlfriend loves my setup and says she probably wouldn't want to watch another movie without it. even 5 channel stereo envelops the room with sound. i just don't understand. some of you should go to the dtsonline.com site and order some 5 channel music....and ditch the yamahas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montigue Posted June 16, 2001 Share Posted June 16, 2001 This message has been edited by montigue on 06-16-2001 at 02:40 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montigue Posted June 16, 2001 Share Posted June 16, 2001 samuel r, I could'nt have said it any better myself. I could'nt beleive the difference in sound when I swapped my Yamaha receiver for the Harman Kardon . The music was so much richer and cleaner. Yamahas sell (I think) for there bells and whistles. You get a lot of button's to push and sure it looks great in a stereo rack but if you really spent the time to compare then you would be enlightened. Surround sound is the way to go you just need the right equipment. Monty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikekid Posted June 16, 2001 Share Posted June 16, 2001 Geezzzz...Here goes the Yamaha bashing again Mike The Yamaha Underdog................... Chorus II mains Academy center KG.5 front effects KG1.5 rear surrounds SW12 II sub YAMAHA RXV2090 Receiver (1st reachable DD ready..."old") Sony DVP-S500D (DVD w/ built in decoder) YAMAHA cdc-645 5 cd changer......... I know, man this stuff is old! But it sounds so GOOD!! Oh ya..I forgot to mention, the really cool thing about this receiver is that in the summer I can use it as a jet ski. In the winter..it makes a great snow blower!! What more could you ask for for cryin' out loud??!! This message has been edited by Mikekid on 06-16-2001 at 10:31 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensilb Posted June 16, 2001 Share Posted June 16, 2001 Your Yamaha model must be a bad one. I previously had the Sony strv444es than I got the Yamaha RXV1000 and I and very happy with it. Maybe you just a lower model or a member of a bad family. Oh well just an idea. ------------------ Sony Trinitron 27" TV Yamaha RX-V1000 JVC HR-S3800 Super VHS VCR Sony DVP-S530D DVD Player Sony Tape Sony CDP-CE345 Cd player RF-3 RC-3 Synergy Rear surounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake2 Posted June 16, 2001 Share Posted June 16, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Mikekid: Oh ya..I forgot to mention, the really cool thing about this receiver is that in the summer I can use it as a jet ski. In the winter..it makes a great snow blower!! What more could you ask for for cryin' out loud??!! ROTFLMAO Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider124 Posted June 17, 2001 Share Posted June 17, 2001 Yeah, maxg. I hear you. Personally I'm looking to sell my entire Reference HT system (including Outlaw Audio 1050 amp, and KSW-12). Once I do, I should have enough cash to pick up a stereo system using tubes (bottlehead Paramours, most likely), and a pair of either La Scalas, Cornwalls, Hammer Dynamics Super 12's, Bottlehead Straight 8's. I'm going to the VSAC conference in Sept, so I should get to hear all kinds of high efficiency designs! I can't WAIT! Charlie G ------------------ "What's that noise?" "It's the carpet, it kinda mutes the speakers." "No, it sounded more like the chandalier falling." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhawki Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Mikekid: Geezzzz...Here goes the Yamaha bashing again Mike The Yamaha Underdog................... I'm on the Yamaha bandwagon with ya! LOVE my RX-V3000!!! Didn't buy it for the bells and whistles (i.e. DSP modes) There are only like 3 modes i ever use. Got it cuz it sounds GREAT with the KLF-30/C7/RS-3 setup. Compared it to Marantz and Denon and still kept it. To each his own... -Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensilb Posted June 28, 2001 Share Posted June 28, 2001 Rich, I agree with you. I am very happy with my RX-V1000. I would love to have the RX-V3000. I would have to say before buying the RX-V1, I would probably seriously explore Marantz or B&K. But at this point, I am very happy with Yamaha. ------------------ Sony Trinitron 27" TV Yamaha RX-V1000 JVC HR-S3800 Super VHS VCR Sony DVP-S530D DVD Player Sony Tape Sony CDP-CE345 Cd player RF-3 Main Monster m1.4 Biwire Cables RC-3 Center SS-1 Rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montigue Posted June 29, 2001 Share Posted June 29, 2001 well heck... if worst comes to worst at least youll get good gas mileage with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikekid Posted June 29, 2001 Share Posted June 29, 2001 Yeah.. It does real well as a commuter rig. Real gas saver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobo1 Posted July 5, 2001 Share Posted July 5, 2001 Glad to see some music lovers seeing the light. I posted a thread over a year ago about my abandonment of multichannel music/HT setup in favor of a traditional stereo setup. It did not raise an eyebrow compared to this. To repeat, I had the works. Lexicon processor, separate amps (7 channels, 1 sub), Laserdisc, HiFi VCR's, CD, Sony TV. It had its moments on a few action movies but was a total joke on music. I sold the whole damn gimmicky thing. I got out my old 1979 La Scalas, replaced the crossover, bought all tube highend preamp and SET mono low wattage amps. I upgraded my turntable to a VPI with a Dynavector 20XL moving coil cartridge into a Lehmann's Black Cube, added an REL Strata II subwoofer, hooked up my old oscilliscope Marantz tuner, bought a Sony SCD-777ES Super Audio CD player, bought a VPI vacuum record cleaner. Finally I cleaned the AC with a PS Audio P300 and Ultimate Outlet. Yeah, it was a lot of money for "only two channels", but all my multichannel advocates say it smokes anything they have heard within its price range, stereo or HT. BTW, I watch movies on a 27 inch regular TV through my Panasonic DVD player with no HT setup. I seem to hear the dialog better than I did with my big HT rig. Stereo rules, drobo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Turner Posted July 5, 2001 Share Posted July 5, 2001 I have to side on the 2 channel setup. Most of my friends "upgraded" to surround sound but they had to make compromises to their simple 2 channel setups. Also most of the movies I like are non-action type. Personally, surround sound is too much stimulus for my head...I enjoy a simple stereo soundstage where I can close my eyes and visualize the performers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornEd Posted July 5, 2001 Share Posted July 5, 2001 Wow, I remember those, ours had a little orange lighted dial in the center, opened my ears and closed my eyes to visualize the Green Hornet, the Shadow, Inner Sanctum, Fibber McGee and Molly. After all, it is all about stimulating that space between the ears... and in those days nothing beat the radio. Thanks for the memories... I bought a pair of Cornwalls for a two-channel refuge. HornEd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted July 6, 2001 Share Posted July 6, 2001 Yeah,I enjoy good music myself,much more often than watching a movie.But on that rare occasion that I do have the time to watch a movie and be entertained,I like the experience that multi-channel provides.To each his own. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discorules Posted July 6, 2001 Share Posted July 6, 2001 The dialogue is very hard to follow in many of these H.T movies. The wife really doesn't care much for HT but perhaps we're just dinosaurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted July 6, 2001 Author Share Posted July 6, 2001 I had no idea when I made this post that it would spark so much comment - both for and against surround sound. I would say that this does not augur well for DVD/a. The majority of people here (hardly a globally representative sample I agree) are 2 channel officionado's. Seems like this would move the ball in the direction of SACD which is 2 channel (currently). SACD is certainly the direction I am thinking of taking (if and when it takes off). So, is there anyone out there with a top line 2 channel setup that has moved completely to surround sound? I realise that defining top-line is a bit tricky but to be simplistic lets say a system that they spent $10,000 or so on and were happy and then switched to a surround sound setup (at any price) for music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted July 6, 2001 Share Posted July 6, 2001 discorules,you need a better center channel speaker.What fronts do you have? Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discorules Posted July 9, 2001 Share Posted July 9, 2001 quote: Originally posted by talktoKeith: discorules,you need a better center channel speaker.What fronts do you have? Keith I have SB3's and no center channel speaker. My home theater is a early dolby surround system with no center channel output. Having said that, even the dialogue at the theaters with movies that emphasize SFX are sometimes difficult to completely understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted July 9, 2001 Share Posted July 9, 2001 I guess im getting old, still like my music, more than movies, besides it was all synergy and reference set up! So i didnt really loose much!! If i did go back into H/T all i need is a heresy for center and a digital surround, even still, i havent thought of it!! I just do not miss the theater thing at all!! I grew up, cranking music, NOW, what would your freinds think of you, if you were cranking a movie!!! LOL Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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