Logik Posted July 6, 2001 Share Posted July 6, 2001 Hello... yes, this is my first post. Hopefully you guys can help me out. Im upgrading my current home system as its just not "cutting?" it anymore. Im upgrading my sub, fronts, receiver and center. I have the older Klipsch KG5? bookshelf rears, I think I'll hang on to those... Im using some older sony fronts and an older Klipsch Sub with the 8" front and 10" rear passive speaker. "sorry, cant remember the model names :P" Im also using a Denon AVR-1500 receiver... but I think I want to take advantage of the new DTS and 5.1 surround on the new receivers. Im thinking about the Yamaha HTR-5460, Its fairly affordable and seems to have some nice features. Any thoughts on another receiver would be appreciated. This is where you guys really come in handy Im curious as to which Klipsch fronts you guys would recommend... and before you tell me to "go listen to them at HIFI buys" Im not... My living room isnt sound proofed, and I dont have the same room configurations as they do... So I want "real world" experience. I like the look and specs of the reference series RF-3 speakers. Yet I also like the Synergy SF-2 speaker as well. Please give me some feedback and suggestions on those 2 speakers if you can. The Sub, I love bass... I play just as much music as I do movies, and I have to have bass. What are your thoughts on the KSW-12.A 440watt powered sub seems like it could handle the job, but there again... I havnt heard it. I would keep the sub I have now, and possibly have 2 subs. Any thoughts on this? Center channel is no biggie... I just need to decide which fronts to get, then I will match the center with that. I will thank you guys in advance for any help you can offer me... Its a big decision for me... so please set me straight Thanks Again Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTADDICT Posted July 9, 2001 Share Posted July 9, 2001 Love my reference sys. ksw12 & ksw15,. I have a sony da30 es receiver. Sony makes nice receivers too! I'm glad I spent the extra to get a little more. Best tweek I did is to add a 400 watt amp to my rf-3's. Like having two subs, the 15" is definently louder than the 12, but both are good. There's a lot of different people here running a lot of different systems and I'm sure they all sound good, as long as ya drop some chaching your gonna like it. Legends would be good, HMMM come to think of it, lascalas and klipschorns or the new reference line. Shooot, I need a second job..... Seriously though I bought the ref. line without ever hearing them or ever seeing them for that matter, and never even considered room acoustics, and they sound great,ther's alot of people here running rf-3's, but I secretly envy those with the legends.....p.s. get the biggest sub ya can get your hands on if you can afford it definently wait for the new klipsch subs!!! If I had to do it all over again I definently would get the ksw15 and skipped the 12 alltogether. And even now I wish I had a vel hgs, sunfire or svs. As for receivers, I'll pass on advice cause I'm partial to sony I have 0 complaints and nothing but recommendations, but there's also alot of people running yammi's on here wich may or may not be better. All in taste if you ask me. Have fun and let us hear what you decide on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-man Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 Out of the two sets of mains you asked about, the RF3's would probably suit you best. You definitely could keep that lil' sub and use it for center channel or rear channel duty for a try. Depending on how big your room is, the 12 and 15 are pretty much the same. The 15 goes louder, but not necessarily lower. Get it if your room is big. Make sure to get a matching center channel, like the RC-3. HTADDICT, See you are in Dakota territory. I am from Mandan, myself. The today show sure blasted your state yesterday. What's all this crap about changing the name to "Dakota"? Like that would ever happen... T-man ------------------ KG 5.5 (mains) KG 2.2v (center) KG 1 (rears) KSW-12 (sub) Denon AVR 681/1601 Toshiba SD-3109 DVD Kenwood LVD700 LD Sony CD changer Sony 27" Trinitron Sony PLX I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTADDICT Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 Even we here in ND don't know what this is all about, guess some people are REALLLY bored here when all you have to do is think about changing names. I'm gonna vote for this * -and we'll call it the state formerly known as northdakota. What is this crap all about? Anyway proud of the state even if theychange the name. I personally think they should call it cold as hell and if you can't take it stay out state. That would suit me just fine! Our state bird could be a frozen penguin corpse. and that same bird could be on our state flag being sodomized by old man winter, that should send a message Any way logic rf-3's and a ksw15, blow the lid off! (could still use more and biggersubs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DillonW Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 We could design the ultimate system for you, but my guess is you have some budget in mind. Let us know just how much you want to spend on a receiver and how much on the speakers. When you say your going to hang on to the KG5 bookshelfs, do you intend to use them in your system as the rear surrounds? Give a few more details and we can give you options that meet your needs. ------------------ Thanks, Bill Dillon Mains: LaScalas Center: KLF C7 Front Effects: None Yet Rears: Chorus IIs Rear Center: None Yet Sub: Velodyne CT150 Receiver: Yamaha RX-V3000 DVD: Sony 560D TV: Toshiba 61" 61H70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 Logik,where in Georgia is Grayson?How much do you want to spend and how much room have you got for speakers?Any preferences?Need more data.BTW,sounds like a Klipsch SW8II sub. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logik Posted July 11, 2001 Author Share Posted July 11, 2001 Hey... thanks for responding. My rooms around 16x30... but my rears arent all the way in the back. I kinda have it split in half, using my couch. Budget isnt "too" much of a concern as far as speakers... I would say around $2,000 wholesale cash to spend. I dont buy retail... too expensive. Anyhow, as far as budget for a receiver... I'd like to spend no more than $800.00. The KG5's I will keep and use for now, So i can put more money towards my sub, fronts and center. Grayson is about 25 minutes east of Atlanta... in Gwinnett county. I deffinately think I've made up my mind on the RF-3's and matching center... just not sure what I should do about the sub... I want something that can get low... yet still have a good mid and very powerful. Like I've said before, I listen to music more than I watch movies I'd say, so... need something to crank TooL with Thanks for the help so far... appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcelov Posted July 11, 2001 Share Posted July 11, 2001 Tweeter bought out the remaining stock on KLF-20 front channels. You can pick them up for the same price as the RF-3s (Almost 1/2 price) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montigue Posted July 11, 2001 Share Posted July 11, 2001 Logik: The most important speaker in a HT system is the center channel. In home theater you will listen to that speaker more than any other speaker. Save yourself time on upgrading in the future and get the best one. My advise on the model would be the KLF C-7. remember that 75% of a movie will come from the center channel...don't cut yourself short Monty This message has been edited by montigue on 07-11-2001 at 12:19 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake2 Posted July 11, 2001 Share Posted July 11, 2001 Logik - See how cheaply you can pick up a Denon 3801 receiver. If you look hard, I think you can get close to your $800 (or below), and have a heckuva unit. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logik Posted July 11, 2001 Author Share Posted July 11, 2001 Hey... Thanks for the help so far guys. I would like another Denon receiver, but not sure if I really "want" another. Maybe someone can clear it up... but to me it didnt seem like my denon had much "bass" output. I usually have to turn the bass close to all the way up to get the response I want. I dont keep my sub turned up all the way tho. I dunno, maybe I just expect too much from my unit. I've heard from a lot of friends with home theatres that Yamaha Receivers have a good bass channel and a lot of power. I guess its all a matter of prefrence. Anyhow... Thanks again for the advice guys, I appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 Yamaha certainly make perfectly reasonable receivers in terms of their price:performance. The only problem is that they tend to be a little bright. When you couple this with a klipsch horn loaded speaker the result can be harsh. A lot will depend on your tastes. I certainly found my original combo (Yamaha 595a acting as a pre-amp for a Rotel 1080 power amp driving Heresy 2 speakers) was harsh in the extreme and made some pieces of music unlistenable to. Having said that I am a fan of the softer/warmer sound and now listen primarily to my tubes monoblocks reserving an SS amp for rock, dance and so on ( where the sharper, colder sound works better IMHO). Generally it seems that for surround sound amps the Denon is a more popular pick for Klipsch owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulaelliott Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 Logik, Its not a 440w powered sub.....That's PEAK wattage youre seeing....I dont know the RMS value, but that's the value you need to use when making comparisons, not PEAK value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo-Jo Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 Yeah, RF3s would definately be my choice- personal favorite. Not really sure what to tell you about centers and recievers cause I'm still a newbie, but I highly recommend Velodyne subs, if you don't have much of a budget. Tool would sound really awesome with one of the HGS series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logik Posted July 12, 2001 Author Share Posted July 12, 2001 I realize the difference between peak and RMS If its 440w peak... prolly around 50-60w rms, maybe a little more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLUngurait Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 logic, I believe the KSW-12 is rated at 105 watts RMS...I'm too lazy to check the specs in the "Products" section of the site...but maybe you're not? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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