Allan Songer Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Look at this--you can save A LOT of money! www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?cablintr&1105900471 I thought I'd seen EVERYTHING, but now THIS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagne taste beer budget Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I can't even fathom stuff like this, regardless of how it sounds or how much money I had at my disposal to spend on audio. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess he doesn't use 12 gg Home Depot wire for his speakers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leok Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Clearly, one should invest in audio interconnect cables and not the stock market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmikid Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I wished I could afford a TT for that kind of money! Jeez, you can buy almost three great Blue Notes for that, eh, Allan? Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Robinson Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Eleven grand new???? Yeah, this is definitely whacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholtl Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 That's Nordost Valhalla's competition, right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Blacksmith Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 The money must be in the fancy box and certificate that it comes with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo33 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 It has been proven that electrons can distiguish the different between a Blue Note and an 18.55 grams LP! But then there are scammers and scammers' scammers and scammers' scammers' scammers...well, you get the idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted November 18, 2004 Author Share Posted November 18, 2004 Neo--I have no idea what you mean by that! But that's pretty much par for the course . . . What on earth is an 18.55 grams LP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo33 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I made that one up, Allan. But of course you know what I am getting at. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodger Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Do you think that if we all got together and placed a huge rder that we might get a 10 % discount? dodger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 It is difficult to believe that there may actually be a market segment that buys this kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholtl Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 If I could afford to, I would too. If you could afford it, you would too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnm Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 "If I could afford to, I would too. If you could afford it, you would too." Nonsense!! I will pay as much or more than I can realistically afford for quality audio components that have any real potential to improve my listening experience but I will not pay stupidly expensive prices for components that have zero capability to improve the sound of my equipment. At the risk of being branded a Luddite: Comes the day that electrons are able to recognise the difference between cheap wires and exotic wires I will reconsider my stance. I do not believe that a higher price necessarily translates into a higher quality product.( OTOH Blose has done well with that myth!! ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholtl Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 "Realistically afford" being the key words there, Lynnm. So again, I repeat, if you could afford it, as in $11K was no object to you, you would too. Kid yourself all you want, in your heart of heart's, you know it's true. I'll use this quote to illustrate my point... "No matter how many times a man says money cannot buy happiness, he is always willing to give it a second try." In other words, we all say one thing, but underneath it all lies a very universal and undeniable truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middlecreekguy Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 How could you, no matter how much money you have, look another member of this forum straight in the eye and say,"I paid 11 grand for a set of cables". How do you explain it? Do you really believe you can hear the difference between a $5000 cable and a $10,000 cable? Maybe there is a difference. Maybe. But can you really hear it? Folks, anything above $200 dollars for a set of cables makes my head swim. But I would and have paid that much for a record or a concert ticket. There is no theory to that. I understand that some hear have paid a great deal of money for cable, $2000 or so. But to this forum member $11,000 is just plain ole crazy IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholtl Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 ---------------- On 11/19/2004 3:15:03 AM middlecreekguy wrote: How could you, no matter how much money you have, look another member of this forum straight in the eye and say,"I paid 11 grand for a set of cables". How do you explain it? ---------------- Easy. I'd do just that. If I had $11,000 to spend on a cable, I would have it, and I would look you dead straight center in the eye and say, "I paid 11 grand for a set of cables." And you'd laugh, and I'd shrug, and we'd both go home. Only I'd return to my dream system, and you'd be convincing yourself that you're not jealous on the drive back. The reason there's a market for this is because there is a small percentage of individuals who love audio like we do, only they have gobs more expendable income. And if any of us are lucky enough to ever reach that point in life, I think you would then too hearken back to present day, and consider how what you said should thoroughly be taken with a grain of salt, along with the $5000 cracker and caviar you'd be munching on. In fact, should anyone on this forum comes down to Los Angeles, I'll offer you to come to my place, sit down in my listening chair, and I'll swap out my $100/pair speaker cables, my $200/pair speaker cables, and my $2100/pair speaker cables as many times as you like. Because there is no way you'll come away thinking the latter does not sound the best. How much better, I cannot say. But the fact that they DO, is my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I think I am with Nicholti on this one. If you have the money AND you believe such a cable will add materially to your listening pleasure then why not. I am one of those who does believe that cables make a difference - I have heard it enough times to satisfy my own need to test that belief out. However, I also believe that it is the synergy of all components in a system - rather than merely the price of the individual components that makes the difference. Again something I have heard enough times to justify to myself. What is more interesting, in a way, is that we (the people on this forum as much as anything else) measure investment in $ terms and not in terms of time. I may make fun of Tony on a regular basis for what I consider over-spending on his system(s) but in reality I have spend hundreds, if not thousands, more hours tweaking my system than he has. He spends - I play, test, investigate - call it what you will - but even with a very moderate $ allocation per hour of my time our investments are really similar. It is fully possible that those cables could be the finishing element to a system that takes it from a superb system to a supreme system for the owner. If that joy carries on for another 5 years maybe the extra $1000 per year isnt that much for the return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Double post - this forum has become very eratic lately it seems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodger Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Think about this: 20 years ago would we have thought about paying: $10,000 for an Amplifier $350 per foot for any cable - speaker or Interconnect $250.00 per NOS KT-88 $20,00 and up for any pair of Speakers 40 years ago would we have even dreamed that Interconnects or Speaker cable make any difference Would we have gold plated input or output terminals It's the old saying: "tell a lie often enough and you will begin to believe it." Some people HAVE to have what is considered the very best. To them Money, Logic and Fact mean Nothing. They want bragging rights. WE can say that we would not pay that much, but most of us are somewhere in the middle class. We research, we listen, we look at how much improvement we get for our dollar. WE set a limit on improvement vs cost - because we are not rich. We are rich in the support from this Forum. We are rich from the friends - real person or cyber that we have. We don't just drop in to a store and say give me your best - because we know that we will get shafted. Just my 2 cents. dodger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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