Smokem Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 We are having a debate here at work. Which is better? I say Denon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minn_male42 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 pioneer elite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Blacksmith Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I gotta say I love my Yamie!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I think its funny when companies add words to make their products sound better like Sony ES or Pioneer Elite, it is still just a Sony or Pioneer no matter what you put after it. Don't they realize you can't polish a turd. As far as the Denon or Yamaha debate if we are talking the absolute best offerings from each I would say that they are both quite good. They each have their own unique features, but for the money separates will eat them alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minn_male42 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 ---------------- On 3/4/2005 2:26:21 PM Frzninvt wrote: I think its funny when companies add words to make their products sound better like Sony ES or Pioneer Elite, it is still just a Sony or Pioneer no matter what you put after it. Don't they realize you can't polish a turd..... ---------------- *sigh* sorry frz.... but no... pioneer elite does differ from the standard line in terms of quality of parts, design, and construction.... as well as the availablity and lines of distribution - pioneer elite is a protected/non-internet line... sony ES used to be a definite step up in the same regards, but in the last few years the distinction between the ES line and the regular line has blurred somewhat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy_Cornwall Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I have auditioned both the Denon and Yamaha at the local shop hooked up to Klipsch References series speakers and I prefered the Denon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcoker Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 You can see from my sig which receiver I ultimately endded up with. But that being said, If compairing equally priced recievers it's probalbe a toss up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I lean towards Denon, but the only reaon I am not buying a Pioneer Elite is because they don't have enough digital in's! So, Denon 3805 it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikwebb Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Harman Kardon Hands Down!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Yamaha- have three now. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 They are both very good, but prefer Denon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 i wonder how many people here have even heard both lines in the same environment so as to justify their opinions... When operating within their thresholds, I dare say both manufactures (make that any manufacture) all sound "identical". The differences one might hear and even prefer are best attributed to a different set of distortions that better fits one's particular taste in music (and the recording quality typical of that genre). So basically it's a process of choosing the most favorable distortion... So when it comes down to it, I would therefore choose functionality over quality when it comes to recievers (especially when working within a price range). If you're really after quality, then you should be busting out the seperates. for the sake of your debate at work, i vote for the denon (sorry mike) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bchild311 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Both are great receivers. If you're running Klipsch speaks though, you'll sure wish they're powered by Denon over Yamaha. Unless you like piercing, screeching highs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northshore Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Over the years I have changed loyalties, for years I was an Onkyo fan. Then the Yamaha years, and now I have 2 Yamaha's and 2 Denon's for a small theater set-up and a Denon whole house amp/receiver. I have not purchased what I consider a high end Denon so I feel the Yamaha has a better fit and finish. As far as sound goes I have the Yamaha powering Klipsch KG's and they sound great, the Denon is powering a Polk system that I quite enjoy as well. my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bchild311 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I should say that I have not ever heard a really high-end Yammy with Klipsch. Maybe I'm missing out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I got to hear a yammie at colterphoto's place and it was by no means harsh or screechy or anything like that. I think yamaha has a bad past reputation that hasn't gone away yet. I'm sure the low end yamahas sound crappy like that, but I find low end sony's to sound the same way. That's why these discussions are useless without a price point (i seriously doubt anyone has owned the flagship models from multiple companies) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottscay Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I know the low to midrange Yammie that I had sounded harsh with my rf-35s, but with another set of speakers...? From what I've heard, I prefer Denon over Yamaha, but I haven't heard the best Yamaha has to offer, so it's not a fair comparisons. Doesn't matter, for recievers Arcam owns ALL!!!! (Evil laughter fills the air...ok, except maybe Rotel, it's kind of a tossup for me) Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v3spitfire Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 ---------------- On 3/4/2005 7:23:35 PM DrWho wrote: i wonder how many people here have even heard both lines in the same environment so as to justify their opinions... When operating within their thresholds, I dare say both manufactures (make that any manufacture) all sound "identical". The differences one might hear and even prefer are best attributed to a different set of distortions that better fits one's particular taste in music (and the recording quality typical of that genre). So basically it's a process of choosing the most favorable distortion... So when it comes down to it, I would therefore choose functionality over quality when it comes to recievers (especially when working within a price range). If you're really after quality, then you should be busting out the seperates. for the sake of your debate at work, i vote for the denon (sorry mike) ---------------- If its a matter of picking distortions, I choose Social Distortion. It really sounds live on klipsch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 If its an HT thing it don't really matter what avr brand,just pick the one w/the best features and easy set up.On the other hand if you plan on listening to much music/concerts then there is a BIG difference in each brand.You may like the sound of any one of them(mass market that is)but just be aware there are good/better/much better sound wise in the same price range.As to your ? of the two,I prefer Denon because...decent sound w/music on Klipsch imo,lotsa features,reliable(not that others aren't). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornwalled Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 I've been real happy with Yamahas. I'm on my third one, had their flagship Dolby-Pro Logic one before this. I've always found them to have a certain smoothness that endows itself to the listener. Not muddy at all, just a nice sounding unit. Works great with my Cornwalls. -Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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