Dylanl Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 This job is a huge pain. Klipsch must have put 200-300 staples in the old cloth to hold it on. I have to hand pull out each staple. After I completed the 1st one I have a blister on my hand. I do not know why they used so many staples? The newer ones use less staples and contact cement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanl Posted March 11, 2005 Author Share Posted March 11, 2005 Just look at the corner. Under those there are more burried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanl Posted March 11, 2005 Author Share Posted March 11, 2005 Also down the edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Yeah, the good ol' days when a staple meant something! I am suprized by the apparent THICKNESS of the grill cloth! That's gotta effect the sound, I would think. I question its "transparency". Check out the sound without a grill cloth before you put on the replacement. Post a review, I would be interested in hearing whether it really matters (or not). DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 is that a motor board or a grill. i just took the motor board out of my 74 verticals so i know what you are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanl Posted March 11, 2005 Author Share Posted March 11, 2005 These are the side grills on the bass bin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanl Posted March 11, 2005 Author Share Posted March 11, 2005 On 3/11/2005 8:14:12 PM D-MAN wrote: Yeah, the good ol' days when a staple meant something! Tell my hand that after 400 or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Yeah, but in the '70's the copper content of those staples was UP compared to todays measly little alloy staples! Oh, the bass bin grills. I was thinking the upper cabinet grill. That would be an easier to hear the effect. DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 I think you should start from scratch. Just get 3/16 inch masonite and cut it to spec. Paint it black on once side and the glue and staple the way you wish. Much easier than repairing a mess. Cheap too. http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=61537&sessionID={30B08277-D06A-4210-9E73-E67F5C3C50D5} jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanl Posted March 12, 2005 Author Share Posted March 12, 2005 I am almost done now so I might as well finish it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 You have my condolances. I'm sure it's no fun, but on the bright side, you'll appreciate your new cloth that much more. Just think about how much better then CWs will sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael hurd Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Dylanl, you need a screwdriver that you can sacrifice, a bench grinder, and a hammer. A fairly long ( 8" or so ) standard will make a nice tool for pulling staples, even from hardwood. How do I know?? I had to fix a broken couch one weekend from wrestling and there was a LOT of staples to be pulled to fix the framework. ( had to rip a new faceboard from 3/4" plywood ) I also found out that you absolutely need to drill holes for screws in hardwood after twisting off 2 trying to drive them with a drill. Drilling holes and using wax on the screws as a lubricant worked wonders. No more broken screws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 I re-did the grill cloth on my bass bins. I wish I never started. On reflection I should have saved my fingers by making a new set of frames from mdf and covering them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktate Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Its not that hard to get staples out i just use a small screw driver, pop in a movie and a glass of tea and get-er-done,,,lol.The problem is finding a staple gun that will put staples back in, mine have to be hammered down after done also dont forget to spray paint under the grill cloth again.Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 ---------------- On 3/14/2005 5:46:20 AM edwinr wrote: On reflection I should have saved my fingers by making a new set of frames from mdf and covering them. ---------------- Aren't the frames made of 1/2" plywood? I'll be making some new ones for mine this summer. Not that it'll cost that much more... but just seems more solid for the small $ difference? Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I don't think it would be plywood. I know my 84' corns aren't. My was more like masonite and actually might be masonite. The frame was slightly flexible. 1/2 inch actually is a little too deep but would work. I would use 3/16 inch masonite. Worked well for me. jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Trey Cannon Posted March 16, 2005 Klipsch Employees Share Posted March 16, 2005 You may want to consider adding Z brackets to your tweeters now...If you ever change tweeters, you will have to make the mount change then. It requires you to cut the tweeter hole open enough for the tweeter to come through the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Trey, do you have model number of Z bracket and can you post a pix of it in action? Thanks- I'll be rebuilding 5 Cornwalls this spring and might do this mod. I am told however, that PWK didn't think it made much difference if the horns were front mounted or rear mounted. Common logic about diffraction and CWII design tell us that they maybe SHOULD be front mounted. What do your engineers say? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanl Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 Trey what is the benifit of making this change? Time alignment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 ---------------- On 3/16/2005 8:35:30 AM jwcullison wrote: I don't think it would be plywood. I know my 84' corns aren't. My was more like masonite and actually might be masonite. ---------------- My Cornwalls also have masonite grilles. My question was actually for Klipschorn side grilles, which I thought (assumed ) these were. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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