theryugobuddy Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Its off Relayer-- the Gates of Delirium? Bingo! Along those same lines--just one line: Me, i'm just a lawnmower - you can tell me by the way i walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Its off Relayer-- the Gates of Delirium? Bingo! Along those same lines--just one line: Me, i'm just a lawnmower - you can tell me by the way i walk. I know what I like - Genesis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Though nothing will keep us together we could steal time just for one day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Its off Relayer-- the Gates of Delirium? Bingo! Along those same lines--just one line: Me, i'm just a lawnmower - you can tell me by the way i walk. I know what I like - Genesis I know what I think is inferior in the art rock genre of the time----Genesis. It always seemed then that the guys who liked Genesis were either bad musicians or not musicians at all--JMO of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theryugobuddy Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 In the South--if you want to criticize someone without seeming like a critical person, you say " Bless his/her Heart" after your comment. Examples: He sure likes the hard stuff--Bless His Heart! Or She Sure Has Alot of Boyfriends, Bless her Heart! The damage is done, and the criticizer seems like she really cares-- I don't what caused me to mention that, other than JMO and IMHO sure enables you to say how you really feel!! But I'm getting away from my point-- Genesis were gods-- intricate, literate, melodic, musical and emotional music makers-- If you don't like them, you never listened to them-- I stole Seconds Out from a department store in 78 and it was probably my fave album for years. I only recently went back and bought the other albums and its too bad that original group didn't make more music--its so good and there's not enough of it. If you're talking about Phil Collins controlled Genesis, then maybe I'll agree with you--but those albums from Nursery Cryme leading up to and including Wind and Wuthering are all classics, IMHO-- For all the Zappa nuts in this thread, Its like saying Frank Zappa could play the guitar, but he just couldn't find a good vocalist, Bless his Heart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Point taken. I did listen to Genesis back then , when acquaintances tried to show me that they were gods. Didn't buy it then either, but what can I say I was a real musical snob back then with impossibly high standards, bless my heart. They just never held a candle to ELP or Yes. Obviously I have a problem with saying how I really feel---or so I am told quite often.... Stolen fruit always tastes twice as sweet, so I have heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 Oldie.... Seconds Out is my favorite by Genesis, too. I particularly like Firth of Fifth, Supper's Ready, and the Cinema Show/Dance on a Volcano/Los Endos medley. The only drawback of the album is it is live, so there's a fair amount of hiss. But once you start listening to the music, it will draw you in and away from the hiss. I am always amazed at the creativity of these young guys who were probably in their 20's and early 30's - just sitting around and writing music like this. I know you like Brain Salad Surgery. I would put Seconds Out up there in line with ELP's BSS. After that, I think Lamb Lies Down (Disc 1), competes well with ELP. But beyond that, I think ELP's Tarkus and Trilogy have a leg up on the rest of the old Genesis in terms of consistency. Although the old Genesis had some very good tunes - they were just a little more sporadic than ELP. Seconds Out is a concert, so it is a compilation of their best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Though nothing will keep us together we could steal time just for one day Believe we still have an unanswered challenge here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Thanks for the tip Jeff. I must admit to feeling just caustic enough to stir the pot when I wrote that post. I commend 'buddy for getting the "gates of delirium" in such a timely manner. I also wonder which struck more of a nerve; the genesis part, the bad musician part, or the non-musician part, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theryugobuddy Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 You old pot-stirrer-- That original Genesis is newly discovered for me--so they are like a new band to me. I would say they equal Yes in stature and are better than ELP (I know, them's fightin words) because ELP seemed more pompous--and I love them. Genesis's interconnected melodies using all their instruments conitinues to amaze me--they were an incredible collaboration. Now when I hear Yes, it seems that everyone was following Steve Howe, and Genesis sounds more like a perfect mix of all of them. ELP dragged alot of their stuff out --I tend to lose interest in some of their stuff. That said, The Endless Enigma-Fugue is probably one of my faves of all time--even my seven year olds love that medley-- And, I'm surprised that no-one trashed Zappa on this thread, even though he's all over it-- I love his guitar, but the songs and voice take ALOT of getting used to--and yes, I have a sense of humor-- Hey JB--why don't you issue a challenge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I did back up before Oldtimer started to bash Genesis (btw very nicely handled) Its: Though nothing will keep us together we could steal time just for one day Hint: He was born in London in 1947. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 We Could Be Heroes--David Bowie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance Others, mean and ruthful of the Western dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 We Could Be Heroes--David Bowie Bingo - Now quick bash Bowie (I am just kidding) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whamo Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I know this is off topic but who knows what musician links frank zappa to genesis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I know this is off topic but who knows what musician links frank zappa to genesis? Frank Zappa? isn't he Phil's brother in law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I know this is off topic but who knows what musician links frank zappa to genesis? Frank Zappa? isn't he Phil's brother in law? Sadly, Zappa is no longer anyone's brother in law. Whamo, are you thinking of Chester Thompson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I love the friends I have gathered together on this thin raft We have constructed pyramids in honor of our escaping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whamo Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Yes! He's an awesome drummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whamo Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 A wild guess but that sounds kinda Morrisonesque. So, I'll say the doors, The end maybe?? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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