J M O N Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Take a look at Classe' Audio. You can find them used at $1000 and under. To me, they did have a bit of the tube sound in smoothness. I've used Classe with Heritage and got good results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Dean bought a QSC (class AB) and a Carver (digital) to compare both and reccomended the QSC. With the QSC you may have to change the fan out (a $20 tweak) and the amp can be had for $600 new or less on ebay for new or used. The Crown (have not heard it) does not use a fan - nice. In any event, you may like the amp you have right now. Here is an easy test. My Teac L700's and QSC sound very similar. Clean power, the QSC just has much more dynamic range. Get a loaner Teac or just buy one and compare to your amp. If the sound is cleaner or clearer (at lower volumes, your amp has a lot of power) then get a QSC as it will make a difference. Even if you do change amps, get the peach first and let it break in. I just did a $250 tube roll (single amperex pinch waist PQ) in the Peach and the difference was huge. You can roll other tubes in the Peach for much less. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 why does it have to be " Tube Like "........?? you want your music EQ'd ..???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Button Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 why does it have to be " Tube Like "........?? you want your music EQ'd ..???? There you are Duke. Woodog is bringing over his Scott pre today. I'm going to see how well I might like tube pre with the B&K ss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Well BS .. tubes go Both ways .... some "EQ" your music .... some, like Quicksilver, and Audio Research ... Improve it ... i, personally, prefer Tube-Pre, SS power amplifiers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psypathic Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Get a PLX. I have the 1602 and its great with my RF-7s. I'm running it with my AE3 and it would sound even beter with a peach. Go with QSC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louis Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 try bel canto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev313 Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Well BS .. tubes go Both ways .... some "EQ" your music .... some, like Quicksilver, and Audio Research ... Improve it ... i, personally, prefer Tube-Pre, SS power amplifiers This is just too (tube?) confusing. What do you mean by "EQ"; is it change or add their own sonic signature to the music? What, then, is "improve"? "Improve" also suggests a change from whatever "your music" originally was, but in a way that you enjoy. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Button Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 Well BS .. tubes go Both ways .... some "EQ" your music .... some, like Quicksilver, and Audio Research ... Improve it ... i, personally, prefer Tube-Pre, SS power amplifiers This is just too (tube?) confusing. What do you mean by "EQ"; is it change or add their own sonic signature to the music? What, then, is "improve"? "Improve" also suggests a change from whatever "your music" originally was, but in a way that you enjoy. ? Duke: he makes a good point here. What is yours? Wait a minute, maybe he's suggesting that a pre with Tone controls plays the EQ game and good one's without, well they just improve the sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 some tube amps, most, i'd say, roll off top, and bottom end due to xfmrs... some exhibit rectifier sag been my experience with Quicksilver, A,R. .all you know ...all you hear is that your listening to a great,transparent amplifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauln Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Joshnich - My goodness! I'd sure love to know your secrets for taking great pics. And I'd soooo love to buy that 2105 but I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to afford it. [:@] That photo is beautiful. Probably taken with a polorizing filter - makes metal look like that. Pauln Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meagain Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Polarizing filter & metal? Good to know. Gosh I so want to bid on that mc-250. It's the darned picture! Looks so minty. I sell on Ebay but rarely buy. I'm always dissapointed. It would be nice to buy from someone here like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev313 Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 some tube amps, most, i'd say, roll off top, and bottom end due to xfmrs... some exhibit rectifier sag been my experience with Quicksilver, A,R. .all you know ...all you hear is that your listening to a great,transparent amplifier Not to get too far off of topic here, BUT Rectifier Sag would be a great name for a band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 "Not to get too far off of topic here, BUT Rectifier Sag would be a great name for a band." ******** Sag would be even better...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 ******** sag makes it a whole lot easier when there is a vasectomy in mind! Todd.......please....just get the Mc-250. You can then get the peach and be in heaven. jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ka7niq Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Amen to THAT Dean G, I just found one, and wow. No glare! Warm and tube like, without being ":Mosfetty". I have it hooked up to my VMPS RM 40's right now, but I can't wait to try it on my Horns. I bet it will work great, not a bit of glare, and very powerful too. The CF 3's are 4 ohms, so the M 117 will have an easy time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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