ekbriggs Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Hi guys, currently i am running (4) Rf-3s front and rear, an Rc-3 and a pair of Velo 18s. Power is supplied via an Hk-AVR 525 powering the center channel and an HK PA-4000 bridged powering the fronts and rears. HK's crossovers set at 60Hz for the fronts and rears and 80Hz for the center. That being said i am happy with the sound when things get going but have constantly toyed with the idea of adding a second Rc-3 to augment the first one or move on to an Rc-7. Now that the newer reference series are out I am again toying with the same idea but have added interest into one of the newer Rc-64s. I would love to have a few recommendations on which of the three would be the best path to go down, and whether or not the newer reference series would still sound good with the older models that i am currently using. Any help is most appreciated. -Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Blacksmith Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 I have not heard the new reference series so no help there, but I would warn against two of the same center speakers connected together. You need to be careful with comb filtering. usually, you would only need one center. I am sure others can help more, I just wanted you to know your question was seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcott Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 The RC7 or RC64 would be a better solution if you want to upgrade your center sound. I would also suggest that you keep all of your crossover points the same for all speakers in the setup. Post some pictures when you are done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekbriggs Posted March 7, 2006 Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 Thanks for the insight guys. I will stay away from the 2 center channel setup and steer more towards locating an Rc-7 or Rc-64. Also i am working on getting a better digital camera to post some pics though right now the system is not set up in an optimal room for sound (especially with the real estate the Velos take up). Lastly westcott do you think it would be easier/better sounding to raise the crossover on the Rc-3 to 80-100Hz, and follow up with the Rf-3s in the same fashion (moving their crossover from 60Hz to 80Hz), or lower the crossover on the Rc-3 to 60Hz to match the Rf-3s. I have tried each and honestly it seems that there is very little difference although I get worried that i might blow the little Rc-3 at 60Hz when the system is cranked. Regards Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 If it sounds the same at 60 or 80, leave it on 80. It will be easier on your speakers and receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 RC-7. Do it, and never look back! If you over do anything, make your center the best you can. In a perfect world, they would all be the same..(Thats another topic... LOL) But for your situation, With reference speakers anyhow... a RC - 7 would be a fantastic upgrade IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcott Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 This is one area where it will take some time for you to get used to the sound before you will be able to determine what is best. It took me almost 3 months of testing before I decided to stick with 60Hz for MY system, instead of 80. My reason for going down to 60Hz was because my subwoofer has a hump at 70Hz and above that was detectible when set at 80Hz. This causes the midrange to be a little less accurate. But, it also created more ambient sound from ALL the speakers and this was something I did not like. It was a trade off but in the end, clearer midrange won! I suggest you set them to 80Hz for now and listen to the system complete for a while. Then you can start on the critical setup issues like this one over time and when you are more familiar with the attributes of your system. Good Luck and we can not wait to see your pictures when you have it all set up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.4knee Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 RC-7. Do it, and never look back! If you over do anything, make your center the best you can. In a perfect world, they would all be the same..(Thats another topic... LOL) But for your situation, With reference speakers anyhow... a RC - 7 would be a fantastic upgrade IMO. And a trip to Florida!![] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Carbone Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 ekbriggs. I'm abou to receive my RC-64 which will upgrade me from my RC-7 powered by the Denon 4806. I'll let you know the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 IndyKlipschFan wrote: RC-7. Do it, and never look back! If you over do anything, make your center the best you can. In a perfect world, they would all be the same..(That's another topic... LOL) But for your situation, With reference speakers anyhow... a RC - 7 would be a fantastic upgrade IMO. And a trip to Miami Florida!!===============================================Don't forget Cleveland, OH too...8 PERFECT all the same year, all the same x overs... Beautiful split industrial La Scala's.... Crazy?? YES, I AM!!!! Come over n hear for yourself... I am serious here.. TIMBRE DOES matter... Add the Klipsch Ultra II Amp and Ultra II THX subs.. OMG... It is about dynamics, live sound, and the feeling you did it right....and KNOW IT!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdant Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 I just switched from the RC-3 to an RC-7 and it has made a huge difference!! I'm curious to see how the RC-64 compares to the RC-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekbriggs Posted March 14, 2006 Author Share Posted March 14, 2006 Thanks for all of the input guys. Joe, i eagerly await your review on the difference between the rc-7 and your new rc-64. Both of these are supposed to be vastly superior to the rc-3...now its just a matter of which one to get. Keep me updated. Regards Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtraven Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Just for kicks, I compared the RC-3 and the RC-3 II and the Series 2 is a sligh improvement soundwise over the first Gen. I opened them up for the hell of it and the differences that I found were, RC-3II had better and bit more foam, better cabinet (series 1 has cap design on the ends, 14ga wires vs the 16ga in the series 1, visually beefier crossover in the series 2. The woofers remained the same model, but the tweeters were different model number. Yes I was bored to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 IF you can afford it, AND have space... The 7 will blow it away... And like I said before, better to have overkill here....(you can turn it down a little...) Than have a under performing "hole" in your HT system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgarib Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hey there, While we're on the topic of center channels, what's a good match for the KG series? Dont wanna spend more than a couple hundred bucks... What if I had an unlimited budget? Just for curiosity's sake? -Fauzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmushkin Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hey there, While we're on the topic of center channels, what's a good match for the KG series? Dont wanna spend more than a couple hundred bucks... What if I had an unlimited budget? Just for curiosity's sake? -Fauzi The KV-3 is a nice center. I have it between two KG 1.2's in my secondary ht. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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