Al Klappenberger Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Guys, I just measured about 6 fuses taken at random from my parts stock. All of them measured the same as the one in the pictures +- a few digits in the third decimal place. They are 1 1/2 A Al K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Well, I'm not taking any chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Klappenberger Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dean, I'm not real sure, but I think that's a slow-blow fuse. You want a fast-blow for protecting a speaker. Al K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanl Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 I am going to try to bypass the fuse. The mark 3's have about 50 watts each I thouogh not really a low powered tube amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Who cares, look how pretty it is with them gold ends and all -- they gotta sound great! They come in different values -- can you imagine paying $25 for a fuse?! Gee whiz -- I can buy a nice overpriced cap for that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 I just jumped to the last page of this thread. Are we back to this again? I hope whoever is saying that a fuse should not be used also believes that speaker wire make a big difference. Just want to share my experience. You will not hear a difference and are risking your tweeters for no reason at all. My old system passed some static noise a blew a fuse, which could have been my K77's. Why risk it? I just built a pair of Type A's for speakers that I have sold and added fuses to the tweeter section. I feel better knowing that the new owner is protected. FWIW, the guys over on the B&W forum are debating over whether or not to run grills. The big decision seems to be that nobody can hear a difference, but because there may be a difference, even though inaudible, the grills should be left off. As silly as it sounds it is no different than this fuse thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 The fuse in the ALK isn't for the tweeter -- it's for the woofer. The ALK doesn't have tweeter protection. Whatever went through your system that was bad enough to take out the fuse obviously wasn't bad enough to take out your tweeter(s). At this point what I think we have decided is that if you use the wrong fuse in the ALK, it can change raise the DCR enough in the low pass section which with some amps -- can lower damping factor enough to have an audibly negative result. Incidently -- in some cases, speaker wire can do the same thing. Additionally, if you change to a different conductor, or use a cable with a radically different geometry -- you can certainly hear it. See if you can borrow a set of silver speaker cables from someone, or try some Goertz. Whether or not grills affect the sound depends on the fabric. Some is acoustically transparent -- some isn't. In the case of Heritage, it most definitely impacts the voicing of the top section. A lot of vintage stuff is the same way, where the cloth is actually used as part of the final voicing. The DQ-10 and the original Advent immediately come to mind. The DQ-10 in particular sounds like a completely different speaker without the cloth attached to the metal grill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanl Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Well went to put the speaker wire under the fuse. To my amazment it was already there. I was shocked. I didn't put it there so how did it get there? Then I remembered loaning the ALK's to another Klipsch owner who had Lascallas. He was the culprit. NO wonder they sounded so good. (LOL) This legend is obviously much larger than I once thought. The wire must have been in there all the time for at least 1 yr. Crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 This may be the chance for a perfect test of the fuse effect on sound. Does it sound better now that you know the fuse was bypassed than it did before you knew it had been bypassed? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Klappenberger Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Guys, When Randy finally gets his ES-Khorn crossover set he is going to have to start a new thread! This one is now totally devoted to fuses. It's all Dana's fault! He just had to bring up the fuse thing! [] AL K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khorn#1 Posted September 17, 2006 Author Share Posted September 17, 2006 Don't worry Al, I will, and It will most likely branch off into several different discussions just like this one did. It's just the nature of the forum and actually I have learned alot from this very thing happening to a thread but, we all would have to admit, this fuse issue has gone a little far. Fuse or not, I am very looking forward to the networks arriving, installing and listening to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsear Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 My 83 Khorns were fused. My older boy errantly cranked them to an ungodly volume for a short second and the fuses did not blow. My ES networks are not fused and I'm not the least concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 oscarsear, Did you get the package I sent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsear Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 jw.... not as yet. Shouldn't be too long tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Guys, When Randy finally gets his ES-Khorn crossover set he is going to have to start a new thread! This one is now totally devoted to fuses. It's all Dana's fault! He just had to bring up the fuse thing! [] AL K. I blame myself. DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascaladan Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I waited a long time to respond. Do not use fuses!. They destroy the sound. Ok now, I am ready for the attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Klappenberger Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 ATTACK! [8o|] ATTACK! [8o|] Al K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 If I can find a bullet or two, will by pass the fuse and join the party line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khorn#1 Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Al, Not trying to be pushy but, how is my es - networks coming along. I know you said it would be a month or so but, I can't sleep at night because of anticipation, LOL. Thanks Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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