Duke Spinner Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Paul Klipsch says a 1W amplifier is fine for home use, and 1.5W of power filled an aircraft hangar size room will music for a crowd of 1000 people Soooooo...... I missed something ..??? PCat's are ..... 1.5 Watt's ....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 I can't wait til I get to hear those pCATS. Mark, I hope you will make the trip to Indy and bring those sweethearts. Trey would be delighted, I'm sure, to set them up with some Khorns or Jubilees for a listening session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Roland Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 I found, on Audiogon, a pair of nice looking Welborne 300Bs that're on the way to my house right now. Should arrive Tuesday or Wednesday. I hope these would be considered good used ones! The seller assured me they were quiet, a step in the right direction for sure. Can't wait to hear them! George Roland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Cool, George. I'll be very interested to see if your opinions agree with mine. Edwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 They are Class A like SET. They use triodes, and they have no feedback. 25 Watt's Class A is nothin' to sneeze at...... I have a lotta Class A amps using EL-84's sound's like 15 w class a = 50 w class AB of course, I'm at probably 40-60% harmonic distortion on both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Well, you know Dee, now that we have 7 customers who will have pCATS soon, there will probably be good odds of someone being able to bring them, even if I can't come myself. By then, who knows, we might even have more customers than 7. Also, I am building a couple extra pair, and since I now know how to ship them, I might be able to have a pair go out for serious auditions. md Mark, Yeh, any of those scenarios for getting pCATS to Indy sound good. I'm delighted to hear these folks have pCATS in the pipeline. If it turns out that you ship a pair for the Indy crowd to hear and need a 'ship to' person, if not Trey, I'd be glad to take them under my wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut-Throat Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I found, on Audiogon, a pair of nice looking Welborne 300Bs that're on the way to my house right now. Should arrive Tuesday or Wednesday. I hope these would be considered good used ones! The seller assured me they were quiet, a step in the right direction for sure. Can't wait to hear them! George Roland YOu have bought a nice pair of amps! - I'm guessing that you'll find that they have that 'something 'special' sound and you'll be hooked for life! I'll also be interested in your opinions. DRD amps are quiet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Congratulations, George! If these are the DRD 300Bs (Alan Kimmel and Ron Welborne had designed an earlier 300B called the Laurel), they are supposed to be wonderful amps. I'm familiar with both the 2A3 and 45 versions, and the 300B, initially designed by Jack Eliano, was the first of the DRD. They should be a really nice match with Klipschorns and Bob's 'A' networks. Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Way to go, George. As Erik and others have said, Welborne amps are superb examples of what SET topology is all about, and you'll be experiencing first hand what a good 300B design should sound like...I'm envious![A] Due to a tight budget I had to settle on a more economical approach and bought a BEZ 300B 8-watt SET stereo amp on eBay that handles my favorite pipe organ music through 91dB sensitive Triangle floorstanders with aplomb! Soon I'll have a pair of Klipsch RB-75s that are rated at 97dB efficiency that I'm sure will really rock the house...well, my little 12 x 13.5 music room anyway. PS - Seems strange to have a normal SET conversation on this forum without Paul Parrot throwing in his two cents worth...I miss him.[:$] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 First thread about SET that I actually understood. Thanks for explaining it in simple English. Is the SET tube those big bubbled-out looking ones or how do they differ from the other tube types ? (just so I can get a picture of them in my head) Michael Single-ended triode tubes are usually shoulder-shaped output tubes, but not always (the 845 triode is a long slender output tube with a round top instead of flat top), just like a 6L6 pentode output tube can also be shoulder-shaped instead of the usual straight bottles. My particular 300Bs shown above are globed-shaped, but the majority of 300Bs are traditionally shoulder-shaped. Don't ask me why tubes are shaped the way they are...frankly, I think some are shaped the way they are for aesthetics purposes only, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 PS - Seems strange to have a normal SET conversation on this forum without Paul Parrot throwing in his two cents worth...I miss him.[:$] LOL! Rumour has it, from a VERY good source, that when the Parrot learnt of another SET thread, he said NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! Ha Ha Ha....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Smart bird, that parrot![] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I think he's writing Sam Tellig about a 20 watt minimum requirement for the La Scalas . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut-Throat Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 PS - Seems strange to have a normal SET conversation on this forum without Paul Parrot throwing in his two cents worth...I miss him.[:$] Actually, I'm glad he's gone! - But you did hit the nail on the head, Parrot is usually the reason that these threads turned to Vitrol and drove a lot of good people away. Parrot should have been banned about 3 years ago. Mobile Homeless would probably still be posting and he had more to say than Parrot would in 3 Lifetimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I think he's writing Sam Tellig about a 20 watt minimum requirement for the La Scalas . . Now that is funny. I was totally suprised by that review and even though he tinkered too much with the gear it was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Mobile Homeless would probably still be posting and he had more to say than Parrot would in 3 Lifetimes. But towards the end all of Kelly's posts were saying the same thing over and over again for pages and pages. Hey, if I have to read something by someone for the hundredth time -- I want it done in as few words as possible. I'd like to thank Parrot for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Actually, I'm glad he's gone! - But you did hit the nail on the head, Parrot is usually the reason that these threads turned to Vitrol and drove a lot of good people away. Parrot should have been banned about 3 years ago. Mobile Homeless would probably still be posting and he had more to say than Parrot would in 3 Lifetimes. Perchance ..You should spend more time at AA, or L.H. rather than waste your time here...EH ...?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painful Reality Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 But you did hit the nail on the head, Parrot is usually the reason that these threads turned to Vitrol and drove a lot of good people away. Parrot should have been banned about 3 years ago. Mobile Homeless would probably still be posting and he had more to say than Parrot would in 3 Lifetimes. Actually, Kelly finally got a life and stoped wasting time on audio forums. I'm halfway there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painful Reality Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 But towards the end all of Kelly's posts were saying the same thing over and over again for pages and pages. Hey, if I have to read something by someone for the hundredth time -- I want it done in as few words as possible. I'd like to thank Parrot for that. Warning, the Surgeon General believes that rancour will gives you ulcer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Actually, I'm glad he's gone! - But you did hit the nail on the head, Parrot is usually the reason that these threads turned to Vitrol and drove a lot of good people away. Parrot should have been banned about 3 years ago. Mobile Homeless would probably still be posting and he had more to say than Parrot would in 3 Lifetimes. Naaa it just isn't worth it........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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