Dynaco_EL34 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Hello all, This is my first post and I have a question. I have a chance to get a pair of LaScalla speakers, but they are in a location that is too small to be removed. Can these speakers be disassembled for removal and reassembled? Thank you, Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Robin Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Sorry but if you had enough room to try and take them apart you would have enough room to move them out. So fill us in on the details. We all love a good story about KLIPSCH. Later Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryO Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Yea Ditto, I wanna hear this one also. Gotta be interesting. Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynaco_EL34 Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 These speakers are in the attic of a building so there is plenty of room to take them apart. However, the attic opening is too small for the speakers to be removed. They project sound through a set of grills built into the walls. The grills were built, without any thought of ever removing them. So can they be disassembled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Well, anything can be disassembled...But my guess would be no, not without breaking glue joints. It would possibly be easier to somehow remove the wall grills (if that would present an opening of sufficient size). Are the speakers being replaced with something else? More details (and perhaps a picture or two) would help. Welcome to the forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Yes the top sections could be removed from the bass bins with a saw, but the results would not be pretty. More important, it would not solve your problem, as you would still need an opening at least 25 x 25 (La Scalas smallest cross sectional dimension is 24.5 x 24.5; see attached pdf). <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> Through what opening would you gain access to the attic? What is the size of that opening? I know that I might not fit through an opening smaller than 25 x 25. If you can, is there another opening or potential opening in the attic? Many peaked roofs have a triangular louvered vent at one or both ends. Could such a vent or something else be removed? No matter what, even if you find a simple solution, you should play upon the difficulty to persuade the seller that youre doing him/her a favor to remove those giant old speakers. Be kind and tell him/her that youll only charge $25 to eliminate the risk of those heavy speakers crashing through the ceiling some evening and crushing the beloved cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk49 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 DizRotus, in studying your drawings I'm having difficulty seeing where the 9 1-/4 X 3 ramps are located, I'm a little thick, would they show the section A view? Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-malotky Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 It would be much easier to make the attic opening bigger, to allow removal. Fixing that larger opening would be way less work than properly re assembling a LaScalla. JM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbsl Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Find out how they got the speakers in place(if they know) and then reverse the process. I mean did they build the structure around the speakers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Commom 1-piece La Scalas CANNOT be disassembled without destroying them and making them kindling. You can remove the compoments to make the cabnets lighter and easier to handle. You'll have to remove the grilles and take them through the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynaco_EL34 Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 How true. I was there this morning looking at how to remove the cloth grills without destroying them. It is not possible, however, I am going to talk to them about removing the old grills and replacing them, after the speakers are removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 DizRotus, in studying your drawings I'm having difficulty seeing where the 9 1-/4 X 3 ramps are located, I'm a little thick, would they show the section A view?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> Tom, The ramps are located between the floor of the doghouse and the back wall of the cabinet. As indicated in the Motorboard Detail, the ramps are attached to the motorboard and the back wall of the cabinet. They are not shown in the Section A drawing, but they would be at the top of that drawing if they were shown. The ramps are shown in shadow detail in the Front of Cabinet drawing. The attached exploded drawing that I believe forum member Marvel created might help you to visualize the location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 I was thinking of posting that myself... Thanks [] btw, I think those cabinets are put together with ring nails and glue. You would just about destroy them trying to take them apart. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 I think you are getting good advice in this thread. I also agree that attempting to disassemble the LaScalas would be a disaster, for the LaScalas, anyway. If it is feasible to undo and redo the construction done in the original installation, then you've got a pair of La Scalas. If disassembling the LaScalas is required, you can end up with the speaker drivers and crossovers, but the cabs would be lost, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynaco_EL34 Posted September 16, 2007 Author Share Posted September 16, 2007 That is my conclusion as well. I will talk with them Monday and see if I can remove the grills and replace with new cloth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Dynaco_EL34, You said, These speakers are in the attic of a building so there is plenty of room to take them apart. However, the attic opening is too small for the speakers to be removed.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> I'm still confused. Are the La Scalas in the attic facing down toward grills that are in the ceiling in the room below the attic; Are you able to get into the attic; If so, are you able to move the speakers away from the grills; Are the speakers attached to the joists; and If you are able to get into the attic, how large is the opening through which you gain access? If you can get into the attic and then have plenty of room to take them apart it seems that it would be possible to take them out through the same opening to the attic through which you gain access to the attic. In the unlikely event that opening is less than 25 x 25, it seems like it should be easier to enlarge that opening than to remove the La Scalas through the grill openings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 At this point, it would be very helpful if Marvel could whip together an exploded view of the building, too. I mean, he IS Marvel... Also, everyone is trying to "think outside the box," which most of the time is the way to go. I think in this case, "thinking inside the box" might work: Have you considered not removing the Lascalas, and setting up a listening room there in the attic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk49 Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 DizRotus, the Marvel exploded view did the trick. Sorry for butting in on this thread, I have found that the wealth on information from the forum members is invaluable. Everyone is so welling to share. Thanks Robert keep us up to date on the extraction. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpines Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 If they cannot go through the "grille" opening in the ceiling or through the access way into the attic, then how did they get up there? Standard joist framing is on 16 inch centers, sometimes 20 or 24. Check the size of the existing eave vents/louvers in the endwall of the house. They probably came in through there. If the existing endwall openings are too small, the easiest thing to do is have a carpenter make one bigger and put a larger louver in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynaco_EL34 Posted September 16, 2007 Author Share Posted September 16, 2007 They went in through the opening in the wall and the grill was added later. The grill can not be removed easily as a frame was nailed to the wall on all sides of the grill. The grill cloth will have to be cut out, if they approve. This is not a house, it is a church and one long ridge vent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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