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Thank you Don. It looks like quite the interesting product!

I have a project working using some 10" woofer in a single cabinet into a mid-bass speaker to fatten up the area from approx 50-250ish hz. It is an experiment at this point and I am looking for a low cost crossover, preferably active. I had considered Harrison F-mods but for a few more bucks I found a "Rolls SX45" two way(Parts Express), varible from 50-2.5k. It's only 12db per octave but I am considering it to play with. Does anybody have any experience with this unit or other suggestions? Thanks!

You can count me in the the group that prefers the Chorus (II) to the Forte(II). I had the CIIs and had read about the FII being basically a giant killer and I believe that PWK had them in his office. Could not wait to get my hands on a set. For me no comparison. Maybe the room or gear, or maybe I am just tone deaf!

I am looking for two KLF-10 woofers. Klipsch parts has them but at a hefty premium! They are the K-1056-K. I would also consider the KLF-20(K-1036-K) or the KG 5.5(K-1023-k). Thanks!

The Academy is mine. I did an experiment replacing the motorboard and placing the tweeter in a horizontal configuration. Better sound off-axis. The woofers are original, Crites caps and *** tweeter. The grill did not fit after the change so the metal grills were installed to protect the woofers. I do not want to ship so I only advertised on the local CL.

I had an ES avr from Sony, their top of the line at the time. It was one of the first to have Dolby Digital and DTS. I did like the sound of it with my KLF 20s, much more so than the Yamaha that the dealer tried to push. It replaced an Onkyo and blew it out of the water. No experience with any of Sony's speakers though, never saw any at the dealers. I feel that Sony is similar to Bose with a unique offering trying to corner a niche in the market with products like the walkman and such.

I have heard the 10's next to the 3's. The 3's sounded much brighter, too much though for me. The 10's certainly will rock harder, my preference. The only issue I am aware of with the KLF series is their construction, occasionally hear of a loose front or rear panel. A little bit of quality glue will solve that issue if it comes up.

I am considering adding an eq as well. I run an external amp and will install the eq between the amp and receiver/pre-amp. This way it will only eq the the fronts. I would expect if you use the tape loops it will eq an channels if you are using a surround sound format. The eq could always be put into by-pass for that.

Gentlemen, Thanks for the responces, some good info there. A little more research to do. The idea of the adapter cables opens up many more options!

Nice room! My son is 9 and shares your son's enthusasim! My son's room is also plasterd with poster and shelves with action figures and collectible busts. The Disney bobbleheads have taken a back seat. How often does your son listen to his system and any volume issues?

I am considering picking up an EQ to play with for 2 channel. It would be inline between the pre and the amp. I was looking at Parts Express and saw two different models. One is an "Audio Source EQ 200" and is advertised as for home use. The second is an ART EQ341 and is listed under their Pro section, but still has rca in/outs. The ART is a 2/3 octave model and has much tighter freq adjustments which seems attractive, especially for the lows. I am not at all familar with the ART name. Any feedback on either of these products or others to consider? Thanks!

I too had considered adding a mid and tweet from a KLF 20/30 to my center but after some consderation decided against it. I also talked to a few others and opted just to do the 10 center. One issue is spending the money on the crossover, mid and tweet. If you shop carefully you may be able to pick these up cheap. But you have to look at the whole speaker. The woofer from the 10 are not the same as the 20. You may run into a different sensitivity on the 10 woofers and have to pad the highs or lows. If you find the 20 woofers and try to drop them into a 10 cabinet, the volume is differnet as well as the port number and maybe size. Maybe complete the 10 project as is and see if you like it. If a 20 pops up do a conversion on it also. At the price of mdf you could do the 10 motor board and if the parts come available for the 20 it would be cheap enough to change. I do have a single stock KLF 20/30 tweeter with horn if you are interesed in pursuing the 3 way. Good luck!

Had pics, advertised it here before I sold it locally but the thread is not in my history, maybe to old? I will check my home computer, probablly saved one there.

I did this project. I simply removed an already loose motor board and replaced it with a fresh one cut out of 3/4 mdf. Some fresh glue and you are set. For the new motor board I did a horizontal configuration of WTW with the tweeter cut in much closer to the top of the cabinet. I don't know how it will blend with your other speakers. I had KLF 10s and 20s as well as the C7. It smoked the C7.

I believe you will enjoy the mods. I did it to a set of my Q's with great results. The xover is indeed mounted to the termnial plate. I agree with Moray about the removal of the riser and some elevation. I currently running 3 pairs stacked on their sides in my 2 ch garage set up. Clean and concert levels if desired!

+1 on the Zu. A lot of great write ups on the Tekton mini Lore as well.

It was about that simple. I did not have a "bi-amp" connector either. From a local shop I purchaed addition connector plates, round. I used a hole saw and located them adjasent to the original plates. A little disection of the xover to seperate the high/mids from the lows and you are all set. What I will say here is that I would not expect to hear much if any difference by bi-amping them. What I did do was attenuate the h/m 3db which gave the effect of more bass output. While you can acheive similar results just using the tone controls you are limited to the adjustments being centered around the processors freq. The freqs may be around 100 hz and 10k hz, not suitable for what I was try to accomplish. The project should run 25-40$ max.

I haven't had any of the hum issues that others have experienced with their Emotiva amps. I have used the Harrison Lab attenuators available from Parts Express and can attest to their quality. I used the 3 and 6 db units to attenuate the highs in a bi-amp set up. I believe that they also make higher db units that would trim the input to the amp, possibly helping the hum.

I have run the Infinity lineup in most of my older cars with great success. I would go against a previous poster and look at the 2-3 ohm speakers if you have a decent head unit. You might not need the amp and if you go with the amp, most today all have built in crossovers and are 2 ohm stable with more power on tap. Another awesome brand is JL Audio. Crutchfield is a good resource for learning but almost always sell for msrp. In my experience everything is available for at least 20% under msrp including the JL Audio line.

A question on the possible upgrade to the Quartet's midrange. The crossover specs for the Q reads it crossing @650 hz to the mid. After some reading it appears that the guitar can play out to about 1k with other factors(higher octaves being affected up to 4-5k) coming into play. Since the caps have been redone, my next thought would be to possibly change out the mid diaphrams to BC's or the Klipsch ti's What effect in the "extra detail" might I expect? Thanks again!

Again gentlemen, thank you for the input. An eq may be fun to try. I had one in an old Kenwood system, been quite a while since I've played with one. I have about 30 more days of experimenting with the Zu's before I must keep or return them. One thing that I also see with them is a smaller sweet spot. Still making adjustments on that. And again, the Quartets do sound awesome also, no bashing here! As far as price goes, in the back of my head I thought the Q's retailed at about $1100 per pair back in the day. At $500 a pair they would have been a steal!Can anyone confirm the exact retail? The Zu's list at $3100, mine came in a 2k, still a chunk of $.

In my area there used to be a Sound Advise dealer that sold a variety of speakers including B&W and others. I was always most impressed by the Klipsh offerings. At that time I picked up a set of KSF 10.5s and upgraded to the KLF 10s in a short time. As I would go over friends homes and listen to there non Klipsh set ups, I was always reassured that my setup was right for me. I do listen mostly to rock and jazz but if I were to listen to some other genre of music maybe another manufacture would have stood out. I have recently accuired a set of Zu Audio speakers and am very surprised and impressed in going head to head with my Klipsh, but so far nothing else has really moved me to the point of considering a change.

Thanks for the input guys. The Khorn is much to much speaker for my small space along with no clean corners. The Q's still sound great, I am just hearing more details in the Zu's that I never heard before. The Zu's were picked up on an ebay auction directly from the company, B-stock so the investment is far away form the 3k number. It was about 3 months ago that I did the cap and ti tweeter mods and the speakers were totally dismantled with the internal connection being checked. The solder suggestion may be tried!

Hello all, a question about detail/quality of guitar recordings and the like. I am currently using a set of Quartets with the cap and ti tweeter upgrades and recently did a head to head against another speaker, the Zu Omen Def. The only difference was the speakers, all listening used the same electronics and discs. The Zu speakers have a much greater detail which is very noticable with guitars like Santana, Mark Knopler, etc. It is also noticible in movie soundtracks with details like breathing and rain. The decay of the guitar string is so much more present with the Zu, The Q's seem to have a blanket on them in comparison. And the Zu does also rock close to the Q's, sounding very clear at higher volumes as well. I am not sure of exactly what freq range the guitar is at, I am guessing lows and mids. Is there any mod to the Klipsch that can bring out more detail?