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Milk hath literally shot out thine nostrils. You sure do drink a lot of milk schu. lol Myself with at least 3k cd's in my collection and fiancé with about 1500 cd's are very important to me I like the method moray uses...very nice and yes save thousands of $. I have a wonderful assortment of the brand 3m and many other paint/bodyshop materials(im talking enough to supply any shop for 6 months) so iv fiddled with some different substantial methods of upkeeping my cd's. *What I am about to mention is a tough and very hard process at times so try a cd that is not important first before trying my below method of repair/resurfacing**. I know this threads not necessarily about repair although it takes time(hours possibly) although if there is a deep scratch you can start with 320 grit(then to 400-500-600, 1200, 1500 then soft pad/paper about 2k grit)*(I suggest not using 220 ever, its just too abrasive for most to all cd's unless you have practiced many, many times!) and work your way down to 3k then polish all by hand or very low rpm dremel type tool to resurface a cd. When using high rpm's you can ruin the cd in a second and some are more brittle than others. I am an absolutely amazing paint applicator. Along with that goes buffing etc...Although I grew up buffing cars im not the best at that unfortunately. Some people have an uncanny knack to buff out anything with air or electric tools as well as their hands. Myself I suggest buffing out by hand a little at a time. The more heat that the cd is opposed to the more damage that will occur(im talking seconds of rubbing a cd harshly by hand can cause damage). Years ago at a huge bodyshop I was second painter to another painter that could buff anything out it seemed(in this shop of over 45 worker ants there were 7 painters)...this other, the no. one painter taught me how he buffed cd's So for the un replaceable cd's I take my time and sometimes take 20minutes a day(up to a couple weeks) to refinish/surface a cd. To get superior performance out of cd's I simply clean them before loading to listen to them. Always use a silky glasses type cleaning rag(usually very small, the kind like an Oakley glasses bag) then keep In the jewel case when not using. Dust of any sort after time results in inferior surface. Also keep your laser clean with that same clothe. No oxidation on cd's as far as I have found. I have some cd's from the early/mid 80's that are absolutely in new condition. If cd's were left in the weather on the other hand im sure a cloud of some sort of oxidation could occur. Whats interesting to me and its with any kind of material(music playback material) is the quality of the cd's. Some are very soft then some are extremely brittle. I had a recording, a favorite of mine from the early 90's that just fell apart, from use? It had been in cd wallets pulled in and out, set on amps and left on tables....It could be that time also took it toll on this particular cd. Anyhow it crumbled like a cookie 4 years ago. Then after near a 4 year hunt I found a copy in Europe luckily and immediately offered the guy $50+ shipping and was good with me and simply sent it free. Ended up that it was not the quality original recording although it satisfied my need for the cd. I have read and understood/understand that Tarheel resurfaces cd's on a whole nother level. So absolutely look at his thread on the subject. Im just stating what I have learned from experience and worked, if you take your time and practice first. I mean considering a good detail buff guy in a bodyshop makes at least $15 per hour and myself made double that while painting accumulating the hours to resurface a cd at home could cost near $120 easy I have also spent some time messing with these $5k(used) cd polishing machines and they don't resurface although do a great job cleaning. There are resurfacing machine that are valued up over $20k I have read and seen 1 that some shops charge about $2-5 per cd depending on damage. I have never used one yet again im sure they do the job if its not a crack... If its a crack the cd is trash. If your using an expensive cd playback unit "DO NOT PUT A CRACKED CD IN IT!" and if you are using a $5 cd player and care about it do not put a cracked cd in it as well! The inside hole of the cd gets cracks frequently, as does the edge and the center portion. Like mentioned above cd'd can have very different condition(soft to brittle) and that inner crack can let go fast. A cd spins at very high rpm's so I avoid cracks immediately when I find them I toss them. A crack can be a spot...then it grows into a visable crack The 4 leaf clover would be choice and im serious...Seems I lose a cd a week sometimes....if other abrasives such as glue get on cd's its done for that cd as well...I recently lost over $100 in brand new cd'd and a few used like new to a super 77 bottle explosion...im still fiddling with my PRICE best of cd and my aoxamoxoa cd although all that were damaged I have purchased new again...all of the cd's that I lost there were being replaced from the beginning when the super 77 glue spray bomb exploded...That explosion is another story...It ruined a bunch of stuff and 3m payed for the stuff...even an old 50" sony lcd

The other night the klipsch forum was doing some real wild stuff for me too. I had to put the pc down. Fortunately everything was doing wild stuff. What a trip

I know you hear it. They do grow so fast. Its awesome to see time done well. Time with our kids is the finest choice possible. Kids are just the best. Regardless how we look at it they are the better and more improved us. Or at least that's my theory. Great topic. If I could figure it out id post a video of my kid in a play. She is hilarious. She was recently the restaraunt owner in footloose semi locally and had the crowd laughing histerically. Every day its something else or something new with kids.

Im outta likes at the moment or that pick would get one! That is a picture your boy will look at many years from now and appreciate the treasure trove of times with his dad! that's awesome! great pic!

KILL IT WITH FIRE! I would love to! For headphones we have way, way, way better pairs in the house that cost $20(and several pair of my preferred brand "grado" in h/p's) comparing to her new beats(that's embarrassing to say) that cost $270 with a contract for her iPhone. Its beyond words to me why kids and adults fall for the money trap. She has earned what she has chose yet again wont spend 5 minutes in my personal music room that provides minimal distortion at low and high volume. Nice to see scrappy passing the legend of and in sound on to his boy. As well as others! Finding klipsch at a young age is the best! It took me til age 19-20 to find kg's then another 12/13 yrs to find the whole package...the real holy grail in audio. Klipsch is endless. All humanity can truly tailor their preferences with klipsch to reproduce the sound they need to feel in their soul!

Iv tried everything Boxx...she just cant break through to the other side. I gave up long ago. My ex stepson at age 9/10 had an amazing setup, theater in particular. Interestingly enough my daughter made a spot in his room back then to watch movies...when it came to me hauling gear and hooking it up in her room she was devastated let alone myself. Its about kids nonetheless/regardless of which devastating choice they make.

Im about 40 now and when I was 12 I will never forget my buddys mom bought him brand new jbl speakers from best buy...man was it killer. He had an older 70's high current receiver and them jbls blew pretty fast...It took us all a short amount of time to find used pa systems laying around that would rock the whole town. Music is life. Speakers make music. Klipsch make like easy

Now I sound bad...old or just whacked out lol That's my 25yr old fiancé. Yeah she has the hook up. Iv spent more on here system room than my own. Her audio room is very modern with all the bells and whistles. My 16yr old daughter would have it made. I would get her the stadium although she wouldn't even use it. She has the new pink beats hp's and the old ones(man they suck) lol

My 16 yr old daughter who I have 100% custody of does not like audio what so ever. Im jealous to see you all with your kids. Actually very nice! Some are gonna like audio...some are not. My kid just want apple iPhone, pad and laptop. And money

Im also within 2 hours of it from ft wayne. Very interesting find Jim! Never seen it. If it were underpriced I would consider buying for use in a mono system. Very nostalgic feeling just looking at it. Interesting indeed

3 full grown men running around here filling your shoes lol their gonna need new shoes before long their doing so much running. your shoes are apparently much larger than the number inside. they are keeping quite the tight ship. This place was kind of a basketball spinning on your finger for years. Seems like so much is changing around here lol im sure in time things will shrink and we'll all fit back on this forum lol cheers for you! nice to see the klipsch lady stop by!

I just scored a one of the best led zep recordings iv ever heard on dvd to boot. the sound is so smooth and loud with clarity. Very impressive. Comparing to all their cd's from the 80's/90's then to the current box sets this dvd set sounds amazing. havnt watched it yet other than a few minutes but the sound is the best recording iv heard in a long time to impress. its a 2 dvd set

I would make a suggestion on how to get things back to shape on your own although the pop sounds a bit more serious. Nice unit for sure and well worth the time and money repairing properly especially considering you like the sound this far. I would not power it on again. First I would find an honest tech to open it up and spend I figure about 2 hours to fix and about $10 in parts so about $100 repair...hard to tell although that would be my opinion on what to do.

Thank you. No I actually didn't spend the time to do anything yet. No warranty, tv was bought 6-28-13 and I bought a laptop at same time and bought the extended warranty for it...not the tv, I still cannot understand why I would had bought for one and not the other...I believe my fiancé is responsible for that

Some pricing on pro gear would be sweet It would be real cool to be able to demo gear a little easier as well...all the way up to the palladium

Looks awesome!! Nice doggie!!

Last week lightening struck through the window and hit my 14 month old tv, bdp, processor and eq($1500+ loss)...I finished replacing the 4 of these today with a couple very nice audio scores. And still looking to get a better bluray player yet again my audio/video room is full on hard core ready for anything. Ooooh what a feeling! Heck I felt like I got hit by lightening for about a day(b4 and after the lightening strike haha).. So a note to all reading lightening can strike through a window and directly torch anything(anything meaning at least tv, bdp, eq or processor) that's plugged in to any power conditioner or at least the $50 monster av750(used for modem, router, tv and bdp only) which is/was guaranteed for $400,000 lol

Right on. Looking at that new pro gear it sure does look good. If a solution could come about for "pro gear for the home" it may show some very good production/pay off and keep some klipsch heritage style in a modern package

Trial and error. If you take 100 people with speakers with engineer degree or not and all of them mod or make their speakers better than stock a few of them are going to really be prevalent so why not take a gander and use what is working. Like said you buy a couple of anything you pay retail. You buy say 5k your gonna get some free and then some plus some swag!

The heritage speaker line is what created the stir and held strong for many years and I predict will keep on drumming without anything new klipsch produced and new is not the answer, improved and using all resources does provide so much.. Moving from that edge will result in a poor product. There is so much klipsch has already produced so just make the good better than make the great greater... Point is what makes a pro klipsch speaker is what has more possibility in continuing the klipsch speaker line. I am not a reference person by any means. Times have changed but if people care about their job they would take a deeper look at what the klipsch thugs(people don't like or respect thugs so I guess the forums results are just thugs) are doing. Mark my words with all due respect to klipsch. Time is counting down & we will lose the true klipsch heritage. This may actually be out of hands that are under klipsch roofs Seems the whole host of klipsch engineering is lacking a homerun or bust perspective. It is a gamble for them and for us(us, just beans comparing in the big picture) I am stating what I read, hear and see. Here and outside. What used to be produced is what is the best so make it better. Klipsch home audio has narrowed the spectrum into the new digital video game mp3 etc wave and possibly easy and or cheap made product as is many other manufacturers. Facts are facts. There is so much more that cannot be understood til the flame has little fuel left to burn hopefully never to be completely out. The klipsch pro line is very reasonably priced...It seems strong to move more in that direction than for one we all know a mock up version of the best buy line with reference labled on them....May not matter although I don't see this new line doing well then to the rest of new klipsch product'. For klipsch engineers to read or deal with this forum even a bit is too much to think about I imagine. The good end of a patent is not the one where the product is weak. Klipsch engineers need not get involved in the forum yet to at least read would pay off for more/longevity out of klipsch products. The current pro line is much stronger than a waste of re label speakers. I would suggest klipsch provide consumers with the finest or nothing. Sure the new reference serve a purpose although a minimal one at that. Throw more trash on the fire...keep it fueled and just cover up the greatness of what has been and always will be if there are great new klipsch product or not It is expensive to buy a nice cap. It is chap to buy a thousand of them...lets make a deal....lets make the best. The reference and palladium lines are a million miles apart with any mod you do. Hopefully there will a strength between the coming months...Im just looking at price points, what works and then what does not work. Hoping for the best for klipsch for prosperity not just till I can afford an upgrade..

I wish klipsch pro speakers would become more mainstream for example... prices at least msrp right along with the link as Chad posted...I don't have a hook up on klipsch pro pricing(nor does anybody) other than through email or phone then wait..so an itemized list with msrp would in my opinion blow the doors off the sales of pro klipsch models... I am tickled to death to have the klipsch speakers I have right now. This is after about 5 years of strenuous buy/sell and trading klipsch...Now, today I would buy nib klipsch pro units if it were simple... The crazy thing to me is the fact that many pro klipsch speakers are actually cheap nib from factory or through dealer...Those new speakers Chad posted the link to I would snag in a second if I knew the price and/or they were right in front of me to hang on my walls right now. I have to speak of what I am learning of klipsch these days and the fact that 1 ...the klipsch company doesn't even read this forum....BLOWS MY MIND(and it takes a lot to blow my mind ha) Klipsch would learn so much...for example using free info from things such as ClaudeJ1's hornresp and even his pro heretic heresy, this is fascinating information! And so much more on this forum...there is real info going on here that altogether can rise out of the current mainstream audio and keep klipsch where they/we are now.. Regardless for the money comparing a used pair of craigslist klipsch to showroom $100k+ 7' monitors, heritage and vintage klipsch &kpt just cannot be beat.... ALREADY digressed from the topic of this thread. truth is klipsch is what it is now due to klipsch' past and new models unless you want to pull the lever on the speaker slot machine the current and passed models with mods and upgrades and many plain stock smoke new klipsch with ease. Facts are facts. And the new units will never warrant mods due to drivers and lack of quality so they will fall apart too soon and tough to refinish 30+years from now I will now say during the recent klipsch hq shindig which was awesome any way you look at it...The group I was in was very conditioned and extremely knowledgeable and I heard whispers of distortion and a demo or 2 that were sub par...KLIPSCH should take steps back and look at the 80's(at least, 70's also, just backtrack at least) with the current following klipsch has and what has been established. weather we see it now or not is within the individual...sad to know facts that things are sliding...and its not just klipsch although the pro models are in my opinion the closest thing to heritage which is the only speakers I would ever consider buying for my primary sound reproduction use "room 1"... Another big example I am disgusted by is Deans networks for the rf7ii....I am near positive klipsch has never dealt with his work...This would be another great step in the right direction for klipsch...WHY, because it obviously works...and there are so, so many more results the KNOW IT ALL klipsch engineer could learn by reading on this forum and contacting the people on here with more knowledge Than any current klipsch employee other than 4(I know of 3 and making a leap to 4 individuals that are truly part of the klipsch heritage and still make a living under the klipsch production, hq, distribution etc...roofs)...and im not knocking any empoyees by any means(new things are happening in audio and the old and the new need to hold hands(!) I am only stating that there are over 50 years of experience with knowledge on this forum and its more slippery than snot apparently cause KLIPSCH does not use the best resource available "this forum" KLIPSCH for another 50 years not 5 movement

Nfl's rolling now so il be back in here once I get my college football bracket a few months from now

I started with a used bundy in 3rd grade. Iv had conns, yamahas and others and bottom line I suggest buy a nice not dented "beginner" trumpet used and go from there...I have a cornet and trumpet now although very used and been in family for some years or id send one to you. If you go into the frenchorn section someday hollar...I have a brand new Yamaha in case. Best of luck on hunt...any will work...just go brand name with no dents

Gorgeous speakers! Cant wait to read your long term comparisons between the c1's and f7's!