Tom05

Hey, billybob 🤓

Stereo creates phantom sound images , but the greater the distance between the left and right speaker ( in relation to the seating distance)the more difficult it is to produce a realistic image . The most accurate image is one that is derived from discrete channels where the speaker can play from its proper sound stage position ,rather than relying on a phantom source to give the illusion of distance and direction. 22 ft is a wide separation , at this distance the dreaded hole in the middle can take effect, this effect is actually a serious flaw to the stereo image , but with Valentine’s Day coming up ,could the wife really say no to a Lascala center?🤓

The wife actually appreciates , the all Heritage sound system / theater setup and we both enjoy lots of movies and sports games , so when I’m gone I’m thinking she’ll keep everything in place, hopefully she would be able to keep it all tuned correctly (not a chance😕) What I worry about is the probability of her new boyfriend messing around in my beloved theater room , sends a shiver down my spine , I know damn well he’ll be foolin around in there, and likely taking credit for the whole works 🙁

I think you do a great job moderating, very fair and knowledgeable. It’s got to be difficult when you run across people who just want to insult and annoy others , you did just fine 🤓

Yes , Klipsch forum moderators must maintain saint like qualities at all times and at all cost , no exceptions , yikes 🤓

There’s nothing to criticize about the Jubilee bass bin . The uninformed however may wrongly believe that some sort of compromise was made because Klipsch engineers decided to take advantage of the woofer back wave to augment the lowest bass frequencies, the heritage Jubilee’s back chamber is vented into its 20 hz horn with great effect and flat to 18 hz , much more impressive than your system’s 25 hz ( I thought you cared about low bass). I’ve heard the Danley’s in a home setting, I thought that they sounded unbalanced for the room, they needed equalization in my opinion. Your negative Jubilee rhetoric just doesn’t carry any weight on a Klipsch forum , or any forum really, just silly unfounded opinion. The Klipsch Jubilee deserves respect, as do other great speakers , including some products made by Danley .

Another option is to place the speakers at the same distance to the wall ( as you would like) and adjust your listening position equidistant to the wall . In other words adjust the seating not the speakers .

I bought a pair of the RP 280f’s a few years back, and was anxious to compare them to my Heresy II’s and Quartets. I spent probably a month listening and comparing these speakers , it was great fun 🤓 but it didn’t take long to notice the tremendous clarity and detail from the 280f , maybe more detail than I’d ever heard in a speaker . The bass on the 280 is nicely extended , flat to 35 hz in my room , nice tight bass , noticeably better damping than the Quartets .(If what you like is tight bass)Overall I preferred the performance of the RP 280f over the very nice Quartets. The Heresy II on the other hand even though they cant match the other speakers low frequency extension, sound excellent right up to their bottom limit . Female vocals on the Heresy sound outstanding ,and give a really nice smooth presentation throughout their entire range . If you’re into lots of micro detail the 280 is the clear winner here , the other two speakers can’t touch them , but how much is too much when it comes to detail ? I agree about the top end being a little hot on the 280 ,(If I understand you correctly), I found that turning the treble control down two or three notches was an affective cure for this , it knocks down any impression of harshness very effectively.Overall I think my Heresy’s may sound just a bit better than the RP 280f’s but it’s a close call . My point here is that if you’re looking for an upgrade , you may want to move up the ladder, to a bigger , or maybe newer heritage model , that’s where you’ll pull away in performance 🤓

Contrary to popular belief the RP 280f is a competent rival to the Heresy and Forte , I would recommend giving them all a good listen if possible . All three models are really good 🤓

Hi Dave , there’s different ways to solve this , big output is certainly important, if I’m not mistaken you went with horn subwoofers , which is a good way to go , you get the Impact and the output , the quality ? My solution was to send all bass and LFE to full range Khorns and augment them with a parallel signal to a bunch of ported subwoofers located in the back of the room. This works well and the khorns with their sealed back chamber seem to tolerate the situation just fine . Even when I had a horn sub I ran full range as I thought at the time that it sounded better that way . It would be interesting to give it another comparison today .Impact is very important and the full range setup preserves this . The LOWEST frequencies seem to do just fine with non horn drivers . And this seems to follow a trend that I’ve seen with big venue subwoofers , hybrid systems with big low bass horns for great dynamics and impact, combined with a ported back chamber to cover the very lowest frequencies . With normal speakers a guy can put in just about any subwoofer, select any old crossover point , open a can of beer and call it good . The big Klipsch models require more thought if one is concerned about preserving the extraordinary impact , output and the exemplary bass quality that these speaker’s produce .Overall a good horn subwoofer could be a very good way to get the job done , but other ways can work also , the important thing here is to take the necessary measures to preserve and properly enhance/extend the great Klipsch bass , when using a subwoofer.

What you said here is important , I agree completely , just to further emphasize , if ANY of the Lascala bass output is being passed to a subwoofer, great care must be taken to ensure that there is no loss of IMPACT , OUTPUT or QUALITY to what the Lascala was providing , we must be careful not to make negative compromise to the Lascala sound .This also applies to Klipschorn 🤓

A three cubic ft internal volume is a fairly large volume for a 8 inch woofer playing down to only 52hz . (Relatively infinite)Drivers intended to operate in free air ,( like in wall speakers without boxes )need a driver that can compensate for the lack of damping that a box would provide ,and that’s what you have here. Your plan should be fine .🤓

The Klipschorn is an astonishingly good speaker, so good that they really deserve an appropriate room . Two good corners for sure . Without two good corners , the Klipsch Lascala would be a wonderful alternative . You could , maybe alter your room , put in a few corners ,that’s what I did , it’s all part of the fun . Welcome to the forum🤓

You may be better off just using your 25% Klipsch Forum discount on a new set of Lascala’s. 🤓

That makes sense, thanks🤓

AK2 to AK3 conversion

Yes , I’ve got a set of AK2’s that I’d eventually like to convert to AK3 . I bought the 3636 a few years back , never got around to doing the conversion . I see the 5mh across tap 3 what does that value need to be?

Thanks for the reply, I believe that the T4A is no longer available, which would leave me with the 3636 option. “Slightly altered transfer function “ what does this mean in practical terms, (a different crossover point to woofer? ) Kinda guessing here.

Great thread, (as others have also pointed out )you guys sure are knowledgeable . Curious about the universal autoformer crites 3636 can it be used as an accurate substitute for the T4A ? Your post makes me question its use . I was under the impression that T4A was no longer available .

Right , so do your part and post something interesting 🤓.

This is pretty good advice, I was never completely satisfied until I got a set of Klipschorns . The Khorn and Lascala represent a different class of speaker, they provide big unmistakable scale and authority ,it’s a quality that other heritage speakers can’t fully provide . I think that you will be pleased with your decision 🤓

Good move , Forte is practically an ordinary speaker compared to Klipschorn 🤓

KLF 30 is a great speaker, and I like their big powerful look , it’s tough to find fault with them , so yes , it’s impossible to improve on them .🤓

It’s really difficult to get good sound in very large venues, home sized rooms pose relatively few problems for good sound . But in huge buildings intelligibility and clarity become a prime concern, in very large building venues you do not want concert sound unnecessarily bouncing around the building, instead you want the audience to hear as much direct sound as possible , so to help accomplish this , line arrays are frequently used . The line array will focus concert sound effectively at the audience, and away from reflective walls and ceilings , it will focus most of its energy into a form with enough width and depth to cover the audience . This arrangement will provide a high percentage of direct sound in relation to reflected sound, giving good clarity and intelligibility. There are other benefits, such as keeping the speakers a distance away from the closest seating .A line array will also project its output to a greater distance . At home it shouldn’t be necessary to hang speakers from the rafters,as the concerns listed above are absent, but some may like the effect . Big venues inside and outside, require specialized engineering and equipment for the best sound .

Sweet!