Klipschfoot

As an eBayer and an owner of the wonder and underrated Quartet, suck it up and pay the shipping. The seller did not know what he was doing (0 feedback) and could learn from a kind email stating that he could have been up front with detailed shipping information. Also, you should have inquired about shipping cost to your house. Ask Ask Ask on eBay. I now use fixed shipping cost on everything I sell so the buyer can pay me immediately and we don't have to quibble. You learn something and he learns something. As always, if you want it, you pay for it. If you back out, you risk negative feedback. I like the idea of splitting the shipping cost as you said, but in the end, it is best to learn, not quibble, and not make the same mistake again. My oak Quartets flank my oak entertainment center with a beautiful oak Academy atop same. I doubt I can beat my setup for the money. And, like all Klipsch Legends/Classics, they crank with little output from your amp and offer seamless panning of sound.

If there any bids on your item with reserve having been met, be sure to cancel all bids before you delist it. If you don't, the high bidder gets it. I am sure you already know this but it's just a suggestion.

Hear is what I've heard. (pun intended) Put your subwoofer on the floor in the place where your listening chair is. Walk around the room and find the spot where the sub is most pronounced. Put your sub there and go back to your original listening spot. Your sub should sound the same and be in the ideal location. Anyone ever try this?

What junk?

I'm no expert but here are a few things to think about. - People buy name brands; Klipsch is not a household word, YET. - Many don't care about critical listening; Most listen for background a majority of the time. - If you believe your stereo sounds good enough, it is. - Home theater has been good for audio. Yep, it really has. - It is easier to separate people from $500 in $25 increments than all at once. - People buy copper or "ionized" bracelets rather than go the doctor. People also buy goldplate terminated "interconnects" to make their systems sound better. - Cheap is mistakenly synonymous with value. The list could go on.

I had a pair of their big brothers once, the CS-901 or something like that. 'Held them for a short time B4 selling them in a few weeks on eBay. Don't get your hopes up for Klipsch-like sound quality. They are not to be confused with Heresys in any way. Sorry to burst your bubble but you may want to research more B4 you jump on them. The cabinets make up most of the weight. For 3 bills you can get something like the JBL L110, which is a great sounding speaker having tight bass and clear mids, a pair of which I have restored and plan to keep for a long time. Purely my opinion only!

The Who fan, eh? I had the Pinball Wizard 45rpm. 'Never understood Dog's Part 2 until I was old enough to understand psychodelics effects on the brain. BTW, I have a pair of KG-4 (walnut) in the upstairs setup. I can't imagine better speakers for the money/size.

Went on a mission to buy Nemesis tonight at BB and saw the Klipsch setup next to KLH(!!) in usual BB style. NO salespeople anywhere. At least 10 minutes went by. A shopper was checking out the on-sale $2K 5.1 system (while his wife was, of course, pointing out the "nice little ones") with what looked like a 20" TV for theater effects esconsed on a pedestal. He couldn't find the surrounds (even after pushing the demo console buttons) until I pointed them out 10' above and behind our heads on a suspended shelf. Don't worry, Klipschguys, nobody was selling/buying the Sony leftovers, or the JBL, or the KLH either. Perhaps Friday night is a bad night for audio buying. The reference series can be found in a town 18 miles away, and I live in an upscale planned city. I guess Klipsch has to play hardball with fastfood audio buyers. BTW, the boutique audio guys 18 miles away did not seem at all interested in selling the Klipsch "Reference" line above their esoterica lineup - and I am not some whiny derelict-looking kid wanting to test my burned Metallica MP3s.

If you really want to listen to radio, hook up your computer (using DSL or cable modem) to your pre/integrated. The internet has the least limited choices for station selection and it is the way of the present and future of "radio." Sure, sound may be compromised depending on a variety of technical things, but finding desired content is more important than audiophile-appropriate sound. Most radio is listened to at low levels anyway and is never a substitute for your half-speed mastered lps.

Speaking as an eBayer, never put an item for sale until packaging issues are resolved. I can't imagine the anticipation of hearing your new Cornwalls and being out $1K with no communication from the seller, regardless of seller's history. Out of town or not, seller has an obligation while he holds other's money. And what is this about paypal clearing taking 4 days for the seller? I have never heard of that. I'd be wary of this seller after such dubious statements. The Cornwalls look great, though!

Through eBay, you can find the address and phone number of the seller when you are the buyer. Send him a post card or call him. His personal circumstances are no excuse for negligence.

Any serious premeditated audio setup should have short runs from the amp(s) to the speakers.

I doubt that an Academy would suit a pair of Heresys. I use mine with Quartets, the bottom rung of the Classics, but terrific for HT. You might consider another Heresy to put under or over your set. They are not too terribly large even for set top placement. The Heresy and Academy have different sound altogether. The Academy/Classic combo provides fantastic blended fronts. Three Heresys might do the same (I also run a Heresy center flanked by KG-4s and I can tell you that it is not even close to the sound of Academy/Quartet. It might be that the D'Appolito design may not be available to Klipsch at this time.) The Heresy was not engineered for center channel use in modern HT. If you score an Academy, you might be better off picking up a pair of Chorus/Forte/Classic to match and move the Heresys to another part of the house, or sell them to me! Academy II? No amount of vintage following would urge Klipsch to support old speaker lines with new equiment that would not be timber matched to current line speakers. The new top of line Klipsch stuff is not bad. It is just that heritage and classic lines have cult following - for good reason.

I have both. KG4 upstairs, Quartets downstairs. They use different sources but I can tell you that the KG4 holds it's own for it's size. The Quartets, however, like others have noted, give you deeper bass and more pronounced mid. I used the Quartets satisfactorily without a sub and about 10" from the wall, toed in slightly, but now have them paired up with a sub for HT. I don't have any more room for exclusive two channel setup so I can't comment about critical listening with the Quartets, but with my Velo 12" sub&Quartet&Academy combination, I have a HT setup than is as good as any I will have for quite a while.

Wouldn't touch it. Looks like it might be HOT!

I am interested, also, in the term "honkiness" sometimes given to some later (classic) Klipsch speakers. I have an early Heresy which does not "honk" at all. But it is a very early model with the PWK logo in the upper right of the grill. (I am seeking another like it or a vintage pair to make an HT front lineup.) Thanks for you post.

Potted ivy will make them really blend in with the decor.

The Academy was, indeed, built as a center channel. I have a two sided original tear sheet stating such. "The Academy center channel speaker offers a sensory experience challenged only by today's high tech movie theatres." On the back: "The D'Appolito configuration of the Academy center channel, combined with a horn-loaded tweeter, provides a center point source, bringing audio and video together for true theatre dynamics." And so forth. Geez, I could probably make color copies and sell them alone on eBay!

Now that we know what you need, give some time and a pair may well show up in your mailbox for less. Seriously. I found a few bargains by waiting. There is also a pair on eBay right now. Item #3024809488 if you are interested in black. Hmm. How important is original packing material? Is it like buying antique toys?

Bev, word is that you have "your problem solved."

If you really gotta have the bottom bottom, try out Velodyne HGS series. I sampled one today - the 10" model. This is refined/defined bottom. It is small and can hide under an end table. I had to take off the cover to see the diaphragm moving because the sound was so dispersed. I had an idea for a coffee table subwoofer. That way you can put you feet on it and have a little sensearound. And wouldn't you know it, it has already been done. Especially check out http://www.decware.com/whorn.htm . Groovy!

Here is what makes sense to me. If your mains are low to the floor and you want to have the audio pan accross instead of up and down, put the center under the screen, tilted up as already said. If your screen is large, you may want to put one above and one below (two centers). If your mains are even with the screen, you can put your main above the screen. In either case, above or below, tilt the front of the center toward the main viewers. Quite frankly, if your movie is good enough, and your sound is dispersed well enough (thanks to great horns!), you won't care and the sound-video source will appear natural once the brain is trained (tricked) correctly.

Someone just joined the Academy Academy. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3023462093&category=14992

I have a Heresy center, tilted slightly up, under my 27-incher. No picture disturbance at all from the speaker. The Heresy makes a great center, IMO. I am curious, though, about whether it is a BETTER center than the coveted Academy. Larger woofer with more cabinet resonance, bigger metal mid horn (I dampened mine with polyfil). I have even heard that the Academy can be too much center! and hard to tame with common HT receivers. Besides, with the center speaker under the set, not on top, there is no "LOOK AT MY BIG CENTER SPEAKER" statement to visitors. But I am still looking for an Academy to try out in my system, just to be sure. Also, the Heresy center is kind of a revivalist statement of the old three-way stereo setup. Yes, look at some old Fisher tube receivers with a center mono out which blended the L&R channels to a separate amp of your choosing. I guess the argument was then that you had to have a center AMP that matched your L&R output!

Bev, When you get your Academy, let us know if aniticipation was greater than realization. I recently aquired a single Heresy (placed under the TV with KG-4 L&R in my upstairs HT) and have been shocked at what I was missing through my previous (weak) center speaker. The Heresy's midrange provides excellent focus, clarity and projection. Although I have been trying to land an Academy, I'd just like to know how it compares to a speaker like the Heresy. An Academy would presume a position of visual dominance on top of the set but I would like to try one with my oak Quartets, should I luck upon one. Or I may just try locating two more vintage Heresys instead.