sheltie dave

Coytee, will you EVER stop pushing Jubilees? [:-*] It is not the only hammer in the toolbox. I have Model 19s in the downstairs kitchen, and modded 63 Khorns in the man cave, and they both are outstanding. The original KHorns I most recently sold to a friend in southern Illinois, who is ecstatic about them. This is a win-win situation.

I heard that story. The funny thing is..they never have changed the setting, and for every school play and assembly since then, all they can get out of the speakers is Todd Rundgen songs, and it has been thirty years now. Spooky.

She is mind blowingly good. Watch out if she gets some more training and a sympathetic musical handler.

Cornman, whatever you do, please do not buy anything new directly from Welborne. There are a significant number of folks who still are out money from bad deals with them over the past five years. Personal deals from owners other than Welborne are as usual, but Welborne itself is caveat emporer.

I got a chubby, so I grabbed something quick for camoflauge!

I got DTel on the phone for a spell, but he said there was no room at the inn for a set of Cornwalls and a KHorn that were somewhat close to him. One of those estate sale things. [:-*]

There is something you might be interested in.. Dave

Not many ladies can put on a very revealing huba hubba outfit they wore fifty years ago, and pull it off. Barbara is a hottie with attitude.

They definitely are worth the recone price, after the recone.[]

Not much. The value lies in these working, unlike the Altec, JBL and other collectible woofs that still support recone efforts.

The glue and true genius of the group.

Unless you're a physicist... You are pretty close there. And you aren't too forthcoming on anything, except the top price you want after this thread of their poor performance. I have seen roaded Klipsch Cornwalls and La Scalas, and I have witnessed more corner drops, packed and unpacked, then I want to. There are multiple people here with lots of experience.We mainly do know scratch, rash, gouge, bruise, dent, prong, small corner drop, and free fall corner drop. The first words out of my mouth when I saw the photos was "corner drop." Without scratches and gouges on the flat surfaces or other corners, it became "packed corner drop." Sorry if it is a wrong assessment, but you aren't going to convince too many people here otherwise without an actual explanation, which you seem not inclined to post. Monty Python might term it a "mere flesh wound." On the continuum between cosmetic and flesh wound, again we differ. It won't matter for too much longer anyway. The Cornwalls are on EBay, and hopefully a new buyer will be deliriously happy with them.

So if these poor wheels can never keep up with these mighty and powerful airframes, how come all these planes don't gyrate wildly and flip over when they land?At some point airframe speed and wheel speed are going to be the same before the plane takes off, because the purpose of the idler wheels with low friction bearings is to allow the support structure to move at the same speed as the airframe, enabling it to take flight. If the wheels do not make it, they'll get left behind. [] Looking back at the original question, they never mention the wheels... they say this.. the conveyor has a system that tracks the speed of the plane and matches it exactly in the opposite direction. The wheels are a red herring. The airframe has exactly zero relative speed at all times, no net distance displacement, and no lift, because it is effectively parked at the flag placed at its nose. Now you can do all sorts of tricks with the conveyor, or have both freefalling in air, etc., but if you set the flag at the plane nose on the ground, and the F-18 nose does not pass the flag on the ground, it won't take off. []

There is a big difference between a corner scratch and a corner drop. Differing people, differing observations.The Cornwall IIIs were redesigned for better bass than the Is and IIs, and Klipsch got it right. I have seen plenty of speaker corner drops where performance was degraded, without ruptures. Magnets shift, demagnitize, start losing their flux, driver mounting screws get loose, corner seams get loose, glue seams pull and expand, cleat panel screws back out a thread or two. There is a lot that may be going on, depending on whether your "cosmetic damage" occured while in a shipping box, bare standing in place, or just having a tip over into a wall. There are only a few people who know the story of how these corners got in their current condition. I note it as an res ipsa loquitur situation.

Having intact cabinet integrity would be nice. At least one, if not both, cabinets were dropped on the rear corners from over five feet, that resulted in significant joinery splits that compromised their performance. No speaker will perform as designed if the cabinets, and/or woofer mounts are compromised. All this dancing around the real root cause is just obsfustication.

Q: If you did a transplant, and replaced the jet engines with Boomzilla's Cornwall III speakers, would the plane still take off? A: No way, because both speaker boxes have had such severe corner drops they can no longer perform as designed, and then he tries to impugn Klipsch![6] Observation: He would still try to sell the jet as an as designed Boing F18, tho.

I'm confused. On Ebay you say they play like new . Here, on the forums, you say they play like @#%%^, hence you are selling them. Is there a disconnect somewhere?

I don't see how you could have big Thiels in the room, and then have Cornwalls set up in the same room, and have boomy bass from the C3s and great bass from the Thiels. I have Thiel 3.6s and Cornwalls, and the Cornwall are 3.5 feet further outboard and 3.5 feet closer to the walls than the Thiels. You cannot set both sets of speakers up in the same location and expect great things from both. It ain't going to happen.

And of course Houston, Dallas, and high plains all in Texas that do things right...

Where do you live? http://hub.audiogon.com/audio-clubs/ http://audioamateur.com/audio-clubs/ http://www.audiokinesis.com/product_electronics.html http://www.uavnola.com/services.html Looks like two groups and a couple high end stores that would get you in touch with the right people in New Orleans.

If you never post where you live, and never come to any gatherings or join any audio clubs and societies, you are never going to hear too much. Our local audio society has had over twenty listening sessions so far this year. Self fulfilling negative situations are never good things.

I have found the best way to shop for a system is to go listen. Listen to different speakers, different setups, different people, until you find something in your sweet spot. For me "best" also incorporates only spending money a couple times, rather than gear rolling an infinite amount of times. There are multiple great amps, preamps, turntables, cd players, and speakers. Get what you want within your budget, and learn to love it. The next great thing may be just that, but all it is is a different sound. Figure out what your sweet spot is by using other people and their systems to help you discern the average, the good, the great, and what you love - and then move on what you love. I have discovered solid speakers will take me a lot further than spending large amounts on electronics. B line speakers and gear in an "A" prepared room can astound. You don't need Wilson Alexandrias with Krell, Cello, Continuum, and $20K in cables if you work hard, buy wisely, and integrate system, room, and listening position while keeping spouse and family happy.

Frodo hanging around atop a La Scala! [:'(] [H] http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-1970s-70s-KLIPSCH-BULLSHIT-FRODO-LOTR-SPEAKER-PROMO-ROCK-SHIRT-/181005573837?pt=Vintage_Unisex_T_Shirts&hash=item2a24c5decd

Klipsch shorthorn, EV Georgian and Esquire, Heathkit AS101, AR 2, gosh I listen to quite a few different mono setups. It is fun, just like listening to that newfangled two channel stuff.

I believe the 7 is the mahogany red stain, dipping back to a Shorthorn or mono thread from years back. A raw mahogany would be MR, not M7S, if memory serves. I had a bud with a M7L Khorn,which was a red stained lacquered finish.